Why are there no dint or dsum like dfrac?
This was inspired by How to have nice-looking symbols within an itemize environment? and Sigur's comment which remind me about the display style of math formulas and the fractions.
I know that, in the amsmath package there is already dfrac{}{} for us to have display-style fractions (as well as tfrac{}{} for in-line fraction).

Then why don't dsum, dprod, dint, etc. exist?
If they are not to exist, then why does dfrac exist?
Actually, we can define, for example, dint as
DeclareMathOperator{dint}{displaystyleint}
but I want to know the reason why there are no dint, etc. Or can you tell me the packages in which these d- are in?
macros amsmath inline displaystyle
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This was inspired by How to have nice-looking symbols within an itemize environment? and Sigur's comment which remind me about the display style of math formulas and the fractions.
I know that, in the amsmath package there is already dfrac{}{} for us to have display-style fractions (as well as tfrac{}{} for in-line fraction).

Then why don't dsum, dprod, dint, etc. exist?
If they are not to exist, then why does dfrac exist?
Actually, we can define, for example, dint as
DeclareMathOperator{dint}{displaystyleint}
but I want to know the reason why there are no dint, etc. Or can you tell me the packages in which these d- are in?
macros amsmath inline displaystyle
Essentially becausedisplaystyleintwill make everything in the formula in display style. Or not work as you intend.
– egreg
Nov 17 '18 at 15:38
@egreg If they saydisplaystyleintis okay, they should also saydisplaystylefrac{}{}is okay :))
– JouleV
Nov 17 '18 at 15:41
1
Of coursedfracis not defined asdisplaystylefrac.
– egreg
Nov 17 '18 at 15:43
@egreg I agree. But they are the same, or nearly. If developers can find a way to definedfracnot asdisplaystylefrac, I think they can do the same for the rest :))
– JouleV
Nov 17 '18 at 15:48
add a comment |
This was inspired by How to have nice-looking symbols within an itemize environment? and Sigur's comment which remind me about the display style of math formulas and the fractions.
I know that, in the amsmath package there is already dfrac{}{} for us to have display-style fractions (as well as tfrac{}{} for in-line fraction).

Then why don't dsum, dprod, dint, etc. exist?
If they are not to exist, then why does dfrac exist?
Actually, we can define, for example, dint as
DeclareMathOperator{dint}{displaystyleint}
but I want to know the reason why there are no dint, etc. Or can you tell me the packages in which these d- are in?
macros amsmath inline displaystyle
This was inspired by How to have nice-looking symbols within an itemize environment? and Sigur's comment which remind me about the display style of math formulas and the fractions.
I know that, in the amsmath package there is already dfrac{}{} for us to have display-style fractions (as well as tfrac{}{} for in-line fraction).

Then why don't dsum, dprod, dint, etc. exist?
If they are not to exist, then why does dfrac exist?
Actually, we can define, for example, dint as
DeclareMathOperator{dint}{displaystyleint}
but I want to know the reason why there are no dint, etc. Or can you tell me the packages in which these d- are in?
macros amsmath inline displaystyle
macros amsmath inline displaystyle
edited Nov 18 '18 at 2:05
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Essentially becausedisplaystyleintwill make everything in the formula in display style. Or not work as you intend.
– egreg
Nov 17 '18 at 15:38
@egreg If they saydisplaystyleintis okay, they should also saydisplaystylefrac{}{}is okay :))
– JouleV
Nov 17 '18 at 15:41
1
Of coursedfracis not defined asdisplaystylefrac.
– egreg
Nov 17 '18 at 15:43
@egreg I agree. But they are the same, or nearly. If developers can find a way to definedfracnot asdisplaystylefrac, I think they can do the same for the rest :))
– JouleV
Nov 17 '18 at 15:48
add a comment |
Essentially becausedisplaystyleintwill make everything in the formula in display style. Or not work as you intend.
– egreg
Nov 17 '18 at 15:38
@egreg If they saydisplaystyleintis okay, they should also saydisplaystylefrac{}{}is okay :))
– JouleV
Nov 17 '18 at 15:41
1
Of coursedfracis not defined asdisplaystylefrac.
– egreg
Nov 17 '18 at 15:43
@egreg I agree. But they are the same, or nearly. If developers can find a way to definedfracnot asdisplaystylefrac, I think they can do the same for the rest :))
– JouleV
Nov 17 '18 at 15:48
Essentially because
displaystyleint will make everything in the formula in display style. Or not work as you intend.– egreg
Nov 17 '18 at 15:38
Essentially because
displaystyleint will make everything in the formula in display style. Or not work as you intend.– egreg
Nov 17 '18 at 15:38
@egreg If they say
displaystyleint is okay, they should also say displaystylefrac{}{} is okay :))– JouleV
Nov 17 '18 at 15:41
@egreg If they say
displaystyleint is okay, they should also say displaystylefrac{}{} is okay :))– JouleV
Nov 17 '18 at 15:41
1
1
Of course
dfrac is not defined as displaystylefrac.– egreg
Nov 17 '18 at 15:43
Of course
dfrac is not defined as displaystylefrac.– egreg
Nov 17 '18 at 15:43
@egreg I agree. But they are the same, or nearly. If developers can find a way to define
dfrac not as displaystylefrac, I think they can do the same for the rest :))– JouleV
Nov 17 '18 at 15:48
@egreg I agree. But they are the same, or nearly. If developers can find a way to define
dfrac not as displaystylefrac, I think they can do the same for the rest :))– JouleV
Nov 17 '18 at 15:48
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The command dfrac exists for rendering multistory fractions, say
[
frac{dfrac{a}{b}-dfrac{c}{d}}{dfrac{a}{b}+dfrac{c}{d}
]
and is not generally intended for usage in an inline formula. It is not defined using the simplistic format displaystylefrac, but rather
% amsmath.sty, line 214:
newcommand{dfrac}{genfrac{}{}{}0}
where genfrac is
% amsmath.sty, line 221:
DeclareRobustCommand{genfrac}[4]{%
def@tempa{#1#2}%
edef@tempb{@nx@genfrac@mathstyle{#4}%
csname @@ifx @#3@overelse abovefi
ifx@tempa@empty else withdelimsfiendcsname}
@tempb{#1#2#3}}
% amsmath.sty, line 289:
def@genfrac#1#2#3#4#5{{#1{begingroup#4endgroup#2#3relax#5}}}
def@mathstyle#1{%
ifx@empty#1@emptyrelax
elseifcase#1displaystyle % case 0
ortextstyleorscriptstyleelsescriptscriptstylefifi}
What happens with dfrac{a}{b}? By definition this becomes genfrac{}{}{}0{a}{b}, so
def@tempa{}%
edef@tempb{@nx@genfrac@mathstyle{0}%
csname @@ifx @@overelse abovefi
ifx@tempa@empty else withdelimsfiendcsname}
@tempb{}{a}{b}
By definition of @mathstyle, @tempb is defined to be @genfracdisplaystyle@@over, so we're left with
@genfracdisplaystyle@@over{}{a}{b}
which in turn becomes
{displaystyle{begingroup aendgroup@@overrelax b}}
and @@over is the primitive over. Note the braces around the whole construction. You may enjoy chasing the expansion of frac, binom and dbinom.
With int one cannot do displaystyleint, because this wouldn't confine the scope of displaystyle, nor {displaystyleint}, because this would not place correctly the limits. Indeed, the test file
documentclass{article}
usepackage{amsmath}
DeclareMathOperator{dint}{displaystyleint}
newcommand{ddint}{displaystyleint}
begin{document}
$dint_0^1frac{x}{2},dx$
$ddint_0^1frac{x}{2},dx$
end{document}
produces wrong output in either case:

Can one do something about this? Yes, but I don't think it's worth the pain. Anyway, here it is:
documentclass{article}
usepackage{amsmath}
usepackage{xparse}
NewDocumentCommand{dint}{tlimits e{_^}}{%
mathop{
displaystyleint
IfBooleanT{#1}{limits}
IfValueT{#2}{_{#2}}
IfValueT{#3}{^{#3}}
}%
}
begin{document}
$dint_0^1frac{x}{2},dx$
$dintlimits_0^1frac{x}{2},dx$
$dintfrac{x}{2},dx$
end{document}

Oh I see! Thank you very much!
– JouleV
Nov 17 '18 at 16:03
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The command dfrac exists for rendering multistory fractions, say
[
frac{dfrac{a}{b}-dfrac{c}{d}}{dfrac{a}{b}+dfrac{c}{d}
]
and is not generally intended for usage in an inline formula. It is not defined using the simplistic format displaystylefrac, but rather
% amsmath.sty, line 214:
newcommand{dfrac}{genfrac{}{}{}0}
where genfrac is
% amsmath.sty, line 221:
DeclareRobustCommand{genfrac}[4]{%
def@tempa{#1#2}%
edef@tempb{@nx@genfrac@mathstyle{#4}%
csname @@ifx @#3@overelse abovefi
ifx@tempa@empty else withdelimsfiendcsname}
@tempb{#1#2#3}}
% amsmath.sty, line 289:
def@genfrac#1#2#3#4#5{{#1{begingroup#4endgroup#2#3relax#5}}}
def@mathstyle#1{%
ifx@empty#1@emptyrelax
elseifcase#1displaystyle % case 0
ortextstyleorscriptstyleelsescriptscriptstylefifi}
What happens with dfrac{a}{b}? By definition this becomes genfrac{}{}{}0{a}{b}, so
def@tempa{}%
edef@tempb{@nx@genfrac@mathstyle{0}%
csname @@ifx @@overelse abovefi
ifx@tempa@empty else withdelimsfiendcsname}
@tempb{}{a}{b}
By definition of @mathstyle, @tempb is defined to be @genfracdisplaystyle@@over, so we're left with
@genfracdisplaystyle@@over{}{a}{b}
which in turn becomes
{displaystyle{begingroup aendgroup@@overrelax b}}
and @@over is the primitive over. Note the braces around the whole construction. You may enjoy chasing the expansion of frac, binom and dbinom.
With int one cannot do displaystyleint, because this wouldn't confine the scope of displaystyle, nor {displaystyleint}, because this would not place correctly the limits. Indeed, the test file
documentclass{article}
usepackage{amsmath}
DeclareMathOperator{dint}{displaystyleint}
newcommand{ddint}{displaystyleint}
begin{document}
$dint_0^1frac{x}{2},dx$
$ddint_0^1frac{x}{2},dx$
end{document}
produces wrong output in either case:

Can one do something about this? Yes, but I don't think it's worth the pain. Anyway, here it is:
documentclass{article}
usepackage{amsmath}
usepackage{xparse}
NewDocumentCommand{dint}{tlimits e{_^}}{%
mathop{
displaystyleint
IfBooleanT{#1}{limits}
IfValueT{#2}{_{#2}}
IfValueT{#3}{^{#3}}
}%
}
begin{document}
$dint_0^1frac{x}{2},dx$
$dintlimits_0^1frac{x}{2},dx$
$dintfrac{x}{2},dx$
end{document}

Oh I see! Thank you very much!
– JouleV
Nov 17 '18 at 16:03
add a comment |
The command dfrac exists for rendering multistory fractions, say
[
frac{dfrac{a}{b}-dfrac{c}{d}}{dfrac{a}{b}+dfrac{c}{d}
]
and is not generally intended for usage in an inline formula. It is not defined using the simplistic format displaystylefrac, but rather
% amsmath.sty, line 214:
newcommand{dfrac}{genfrac{}{}{}0}
where genfrac is
% amsmath.sty, line 221:
DeclareRobustCommand{genfrac}[4]{%
def@tempa{#1#2}%
edef@tempb{@nx@genfrac@mathstyle{#4}%
csname @@ifx @#3@overelse abovefi
ifx@tempa@empty else withdelimsfiendcsname}
@tempb{#1#2#3}}
% amsmath.sty, line 289:
def@genfrac#1#2#3#4#5{{#1{begingroup#4endgroup#2#3relax#5}}}
def@mathstyle#1{%
ifx@empty#1@emptyrelax
elseifcase#1displaystyle % case 0
ortextstyleorscriptstyleelsescriptscriptstylefifi}
What happens with dfrac{a}{b}? By definition this becomes genfrac{}{}{}0{a}{b}, so
def@tempa{}%
edef@tempb{@nx@genfrac@mathstyle{0}%
csname @@ifx @@overelse abovefi
ifx@tempa@empty else withdelimsfiendcsname}
@tempb{}{a}{b}
By definition of @mathstyle, @tempb is defined to be @genfracdisplaystyle@@over, so we're left with
@genfracdisplaystyle@@over{}{a}{b}
which in turn becomes
{displaystyle{begingroup aendgroup@@overrelax b}}
and @@over is the primitive over. Note the braces around the whole construction. You may enjoy chasing the expansion of frac, binom and dbinom.
With int one cannot do displaystyleint, because this wouldn't confine the scope of displaystyle, nor {displaystyleint}, because this would not place correctly the limits. Indeed, the test file
documentclass{article}
usepackage{amsmath}
DeclareMathOperator{dint}{displaystyleint}
newcommand{ddint}{displaystyleint}
begin{document}
$dint_0^1frac{x}{2},dx$
$ddint_0^1frac{x}{2},dx$
end{document}
produces wrong output in either case:

Can one do something about this? Yes, but I don't think it's worth the pain. Anyway, here it is:
documentclass{article}
usepackage{amsmath}
usepackage{xparse}
NewDocumentCommand{dint}{tlimits e{_^}}{%
mathop{
displaystyleint
IfBooleanT{#1}{limits}
IfValueT{#2}{_{#2}}
IfValueT{#3}{^{#3}}
}%
}
begin{document}
$dint_0^1frac{x}{2},dx$
$dintlimits_0^1frac{x}{2},dx$
$dintfrac{x}{2},dx$
end{document}

Oh I see! Thank you very much!
– JouleV
Nov 17 '18 at 16:03
add a comment |
The command dfrac exists for rendering multistory fractions, say
[
frac{dfrac{a}{b}-dfrac{c}{d}}{dfrac{a}{b}+dfrac{c}{d}
]
and is not generally intended for usage in an inline formula. It is not defined using the simplistic format displaystylefrac, but rather
% amsmath.sty, line 214:
newcommand{dfrac}{genfrac{}{}{}0}
where genfrac is
% amsmath.sty, line 221:
DeclareRobustCommand{genfrac}[4]{%
def@tempa{#1#2}%
edef@tempb{@nx@genfrac@mathstyle{#4}%
csname @@ifx @#3@overelse abovefi
ifx@tempa@empty else withdelimsfiendcsname}
@tempb{#1#2#3}}
% amsmath.sty, line 289:
def@genfrac#1#2#3#4#5{{#1{begingroup#4endgroup#2#3relax#5}}}
def@mathstyle#1{%
ifx@empty#1@emptyrelax
elseifcase#1displaystyle % case 0
ortextstyleorscriptstyleelsescriptscriptstylefifi}
What happens with dfrac{a}{b}? By definition this becomes genfrac{}{}{}0{a}{b}, so
def@tempa{}%
edef@tempb{@nx@genfrac@mathstyle{0}%
csname @@ifx @@overelse abovefi
ifx@tempa@empty else withdelimsfiendcsname}
@tempb{}{a}{b}
By definition of @mathstyle, @tempb is defined to be @genfracdisplaystyle@@over, so we're left with
@genfracdisplaystyle@@over{}{a}{b}
which in turn becomes
{displaystyle{begingroup aendgroup@@overrelax b}}
and @@over is the primitive over. Note the braces around the whole construction. You may enjoy chasing the expansion of frac, binom and dbinom.
With int one cannot do displaystyleint, because this wouldn't confine the scope of displaystyle, nor {displaystyleint}, because this would not place correctly the limits. Indeed, the test file
documentclass{article}
usepackage{amsmath}
DeclareMathOperator{dint}{displaystyleint}
newcommand{ddint}{displaystyleint}
begin{document}
$dint_0^1frac{x}{2},dx$
$ddint_0^1frac{x}{2},dx$
end{document}
produces wrong output in either case:

Can one do something about this? Yes, but I don't think it's worth the pain. Anyway, here it is:
documentclass{article}
usepackage{amsmath}
usepackage{xparse}
NewDocumentCommand{dint}{tlimits e{_^}}{%
mathop{
displaystyleint
IfBooleanT{#1}{limits}
IfValueT{#2}{_{#2}}
IfValueT{#3}{^{#3}}
}%
}
begin{document}
$dint_0^1frac{x}{2},dx$
$dintlimits_0^1frac{x}{2},dx$
$dintfrac{x}{2},dx$
end{document}

The command dfrac exists for rendering multistory fractions, say
[
frac{dfrac{a}{b}-dfrac{c}{d}}{dfrac{a}{b}+dfrac{c}{d}
]
and is not generally intended for usage in an inline formula. It is not defined using the simplistic format displaystylefrac, but rather
% amsmath.sty, line 214:
newcommand{dfrac}{genfrac{}{}{}0}
where genfrac is
% amsmath.sty, line 221:
DeclareRobustCommand{genfrac}[4]{%
def@tempa{#1#2}%
edef@tempb{@nx@genfrac@mathstyle{#4}%
csname @@ifx @#3@overelse abovefi
ifx@tempa@empty else withdelimsfiendcsname}
@tempb{#1#2#3}}
% amsmath.sty, line 289:
def@genfrac#1#2#3#4#5{{#1{begingroup#4endgroup#2#3relax#5}}}
def@mathstyle#1{%
ifx@empty#1@emptyrelax
elseifcase#1displaystyle % case 0
ortextstyleorscriptstyleelsescriptscriptstylefifi}
What happens with dfrac{a}{b}? By definition this becomes genfrac{}{}{}0{a}{b}, so
def@tempa{}%
edef@tempb{@nx@genfrac@mathstyle{0}%
csname @@ifx @@overelse abovefi
ifx@tempa@empty else withdelimsfiendcsname}
@tempb{}{a}{b}
By definition of @mathstyle, @tempb is defined to be @genfracdisplaystyle@@over, so we're left with
@genfracdisplaystyle@@over{}{a}{b}
which in turn becomes
{displaystyle{begingroup aendgroup@@overrelax b}}
and @@over is the primitive over. Note the braces around the whole construction. You may enjoy chasing the expansion of frac, binom and dbinom.
With int one cannot do displaystyleint, because this wouldn't confine the scope of displaystyle, nor {displaystyleint}, because this would not place correctly the limits. Indeed, the test file
documentclass{article}
usepackage{amsmath}
DeclareMathOperator{dint}{displaystyleint}
newcommand{ddint}{displaystyleint}
begin{document}
$dint_0^1frac{x}{2},dx$
$ddint_0^1frac{x}{2},dx$
end{document}
produces wrong output in either case:

Can one do something about this? Yes, but I don't think it's worth the pain. Anyway, here it is:
documentclass{article}
usepackage{amsmath}
usepackage{xparse}
NewDocumentCommand{dint}{tlimits e{_^}}{%
mathop{
displaystyleint
IfBooleanT{#1}{limits}
IfValueT{#2}{_{#2}}
IfValueT{#3}{^{#3}}
}%
}
begin{document}
$dint_0^1frac{x}{2},dx$
$dintlimits_0^1frac{x}{2},dx$
$dintfrac{x}{2},dx$
end{document}

edited Nov 17 '18 at 16:19
answered Nov 17 '18 at 16:01
egregegreg
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717k8719023194
Oh I see! Thank you very much!
– JouleV
Nov 17 '18 at 16:03
add a comment |
Oh I see! Thank you very much!
– JouleV
Nov 17 '18 at 16:03
Oh I see! Thank you very much!
– JouleV
Nov 17 '18 at 16:03
Oh I see! Thank you very much!
– JouleV
Nov 17 '18 at 16:03
add a comment |
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Essentially because
displaystyleintwill make everything in the formula in display style. Or not work as you intend.– egreg
Nov 17 '18 at 15:38
@egreg If they say
displaystyleintis okay, they should also saydisplaystylefrac{}{}is okay :))– JouleV
Nov 17 '18 at 15:41
1
Of course
dfracis not defined asdisplaystylefrac.– egreg
Nov 17 '18 at 15:43
@egreg I agree. But they are the same, or nearly. If developers can find a way to define
dfracnot asdisplaystylefrac, I think they can do the same for the rest :))– JouleV
Nov 17 '18 at 15:48