Is that a good kerning?
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What size do you plan to set that at? Is this for a logo or poster, or is it for regular body text?
– tchrist
Nov 4 at 14:34
Looks fine to me.
– Lucian
Nov 4 at 15:10
3
See this amazing answer by Cai.
– WELZ
Nov 4 at 15:37
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The only thing that stood out to me was the large corner radius on the "k". Looks strange and is not really fitting letter form according to my eyes.
– filip
Nov 4 at 17:24
Every character is lowercase, except for the K which is some kind of stunted capital letter. It just feels wrong and will date faster, I feel.
– Criggie
Nov 6 at 6:07
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What do you think of this kerning? What adjustments should I make?
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asked Nov 4 at 13:07
maasha theytaz
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1
What size do you plan to set that at? Is this for a logo or poster, or is it for regular body text?
– tchrist
Nov 4 at 14:34
Looks fine to me.
– Lucian
Nov 4 at 15:10
3
See this amazing answer by Cai.
– WELZ
Nov 4 at 15:37
4
The only thing that stood out to me was the large corner radius on the "k". Looks strange and is not really fitting letter form according to my eyes.
– filip
Nov 4 at 17:24
Every character is lowercase, except for the K which is some kind of stunted capital letter. It just feels wrong and will date faster, I feel.
– Criggie
Nov 6 at 6:07
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1
What size do you plan to set that at? Is this for a logo or poster, or is it for regular body text?
– tchrist
Nov 4 at 14:34
Looks fine to me.
– Lucian
Nov 4 at 15:10
3
See this amazing answer by Cai.
– WELZ
Nov 4 at 15:37
4
The only thing that stood out to me was the large corner radius on the "k". Looks strange and is not really fitting letter form according to my eyes.
– filip
Nov 4 at 17:24
Every character is lowercase, except for the K which is some kind of stunted capital letter. It just feels wrong and will date faster, I feel.
– Criggie
Nov 6 at 6:07
1
1
What size do you plan to set that at? Is this for a logo or poster, or is it for regular body text?
– tchrist
Nov 4 at 14:34
What size do you plan to set that at? Is this for a logo or poster, or is it for regular body text?
– tchrist
Nov 4 at 14:34
Looks fine to me.
– Lucian
Nov 4 at 15:10
Looks fine to me.
– Lucian
Nov 4 at 15:10
3
3
See this amazing answer by Cai.
– WELZ
Nov 4 at 15:37
See this amazing answer by Cai.
– WELZ
Nov 4 at 15:37
4
4
The only thing that stood out to me was the large corner radius on the "k". Looks strange and is not really fitting letter form according to my eyes.
– filip
Nov 4 at 17:24
The only thing that stood out to me was the large corner radius on the "k". Looks strange and is not really fitting letter form according to my eyes.
– filip
Nov 4 at 17:24
Every character is lowercase, except for the K which is some kind of stunted capital letter. It just feels wrong and will date faster, I feel.
– Criggie
Nov 6 at 6:07
Every character is lowercase, except for the K which is some kind of stunted capital letter. It just feels wrong and will date faster, I feel.
– Criggie
Nov 6 at 6:07
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Two quick tips for checking kerning... squinting your eyes, and inverting the text... by doing this you can focus more on the contrast and white-space and be less distracted by the actual letters themselves.
This confirms what I thought when I first saw it - Looks OK to me.
Edit - A comment above drew attention to a previous answer which includes my suggestions here, and a lot more besides. A must read.
answered Nov 4 at 13:23
mayersdesign
6,02511947
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After blurring/inverting the text, what do you check for?
– Nat
Nov 4 at 15:02
10
He checks wether the keming is good or bad.
– stendarr
Nov 5 at 0:29
2
@Nat - I would focus on the basic CONTRAST and white-space of the letter shapes. These two techniques it stop me being distracted by the letters themselves.
– mayersdesign
Nov 5 at 8:43
@stendarr: How to check if a kerning is good or bad? You blur it and check if the kerning is good or bad. :-/
– Eric Duminil
Nov 6 at 16:07
1
When checking image quality, e.g. when needing to check the big picture, this is actually what I've done for years. I wish this would work in programming, too. But in programming, squining typically yields dropped databases or flack'ed harddisks :S Changing perspective in general is a good thing - the real squinting method in programming would be to let code rest for some days, months, years, and re-visit it to check if it's still understandable. Alternatively, call it "eliminating the I context". This also works great when doing design, music, photography, all the arts.
– phresnel
2 days ago
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Could be ok for a text, but for a logo it has some flaws.
The advantage of this case is that all joints are between a straight stroke and a curve stroke.
Taking x as a reference kerning between the straight and the curve, all the red arrows shows different separations.
This is my tip: imagine this logo like a giant construction on a wall, small mistakes will grow larger at the same time.
Edit with visual aspects:
- The resulting space between K and e is large enough to reduce the kerning since it visually gives some separation. In the resulting logo this space is bigger than the separation between e and r, when it should be the opposite or at list the same. The reference point is the closest stroke to the e, in this case the bottom oblique stroke.
- The r vertex next to the o should have at least the same separation that exists between two curved strokes or a curved and a straight stroke to visually be equated with the rest.
- If the separation between e and r is the parameter to follow between a curved and a straight stroke, the separation between u and a should be the same since it is the same situation.
a kerning c must be equal to e kerning r because these spaces have exactly the same visual relationship.
answered Nov 4 at 13:56
Danielillo
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Thanks a lot for your answer, but shouldn't kerning be visual before being geometric? I mean, a geometrically perfect design can look odd when an imperfect one can look good, right?
– maasha theytaz
Nov 4 at 14:33
4
Of course yes, must be visual, but try to see your logo bigger after my answer, with special attention to the red arrows separations: "Ke", "ro", "ua", "ac".
– Danielillo
Nov 4 at 14:40
3
Also, the space between the o and the u is visibly smaller than the spaces you've marked 3 and 4 in your final image.
– Dan Henderson
Nov 4 at 23:02
3
I wouldn't aim to follow the er/ou kerning, that's too narrow for my liking. I think the ac kerning might be the better reference.
– curiousdannii
Nov 5 at 5:19
6
Your IKEA example seems to contradict you since the “IK” spacing is much (!) wider than the other spacings, and yet the logo is generally perceived as well balanced.
– Konrad Rudolph
Nov 5 at 13:32
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My suggestions are much like @Danielillo's feedback. His use of the geometric spacing simply indicated a problem I see visually in a much clearer way.
If it was me, I'd bring the first e closer to the K.
The r is too close to the o, and then the spacing on the a and the c should either shrink or expand to match the decision around the o.
When the text is made smaller, the overall look is slightly improved, but I'd still close the gap between the K and the e.
However, the use/size of the final text definitely has to be taken into account as stated.
If you were designing a font using that as a sample, end-users would be making fine adjustments to kerning anyway.
answered Nov 6 at 1:35
Rick Henderson
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3 Answers
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up vote
31
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accepted
Two quick tips for checking kerning... squinting your eyes, and inverting the text... by doing this you can focus more on the contrast and white-space and be less distracted by the actual letters themselves.
This confirms what I thought when I first saw it - Looks OK to me.
Edit - A comment above drew attention to a previous answer which includes my suggestions here, and a lot more besides. A must read.
answered Nov 4 at 13:23
mayersdesign
6,02511947
39
After blurring/inverting the text, what do you check for?
– Nat
Nov 4 at 15:02
10
He checks wether the keming is good or bad.
– stendarr
Nov 5 at 0:29
2
@Nat - I would focus on the basic CONTRAST and white-space of the letter shapes. These two techniques it stop me being distracted by the letters themselves.
– mayersdesign
Nov 5 at 8:43
@stendarr: How to check if a kerning is good or bad? You blur it and check if the kerning is good or bad. :-/
– Eric Duminil
Nov 6 at 16:07
1
When checking image quality, e.g. when needing to check the big picture, this is actually what I've done for years. I wish this would work in programming, too. But in programming, squining typically yields dropped databases or flack'ed harddisks :S Changing perspective in general is a good thing - the real squinting method in programming would be to let code rest for some days, months, years, and re-visit it to check if it's still understandable. Alternatively, call it "eliminating the I context". This also works great when doing design, music, photography, all the arts.
– phresnel
2 days ago
add a comment |
up vote
31
down vote
accepted
Two quick tips for checking kerning... squinting your eyes, and inverting the text... by doing this you can focus more on the contrast and white-space and be less distracted by the actual letters themselves.
This confirms what I thought when I first saw it - Looks OK to me.
Edit - A comment above drew attention to a previous answer which includes my suggestions here, and a lot more besides. A must read.
answered Nov 4 at 13:23
mayersdesign
6,02511947
39
After blurring/inverting the text, what do you check for?
– Nat
Nov 4 at 15:02
10
He checks wether the keming is good or bad.
– stendarr
Nov 5 at 0:29
2
@Nat - I would focus on the basic CONTRAST and white-space of the letter shapes. These two techniques it stop me being distracted by the letters themselves.
– mayersdesign
Nov 5 at 8:43
@stendarr: How to check if a kerning is good or bad? You blur it and check if the kerning is good or bad. :-/
– Eric Duminil
Nov 6 at 16:07
1
When checking image quality, e.g. when needing to check the big picture, this is actually what I've done for years. I wish this would work in programming, too. But in programming, squining typically yields dropped databases or flack'ed harddisks :S Changing perspective in general is a good thing - the real squinting method in programming would be to let code rest for some days, months, years, and re-visit it to check if it's still understandable. Alternatively, call it "eliminating the I context". This also works great when doing design, music, photography, all the arts.
– phresnel
2 days ago
add a comment |
up vote
31
down vote
accepted
up vote
31
down vote
accepted
Two quick tips for checking kerning... squinting your eyes, and inverting the text... by doing this you can focus more on the contrast and white-space and be less distracted by the actual letters themselves.
This confirms what I thought when I first saw it - Looks OK to me.
Edit - A comment above drew attention to a previous answer which includes my suggestions here, and a lot more besides. A must read.
answered Nov 4 at 13:23
mayersdesign
6,02511947
Two quick tips for checking kerning... squinting your eyes, and inverting the text... by doing this you can focus more on the contrast and white-space and be less distracted by the actual letters themselves.
This confirms what I thought when I first saw it - Looks OK to me.
Edit - A comment above drew attention to a previous answer which includes my suggestions here, and a lot more besides. A must read.
answered Nov 4 at 13:23
mayersdesign
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edited Nov 5 at 19:48
answered Nov 4 at 13:23
mayersdesign
6,02511947
answered Nov 4 at 13:23
mayersdesign
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answered Nov 4 at 13:23
mayersdesign
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6,02511947
39
After blurring/inverting the text, what do you check for?
– Nat
Nov 4 at 15:02
10
He checks wether the keming is good or bad.
– stendarr
Nov 5 at 0:29
2
@Nat - I would focus on the basic CONTRAST and white-space of the letter shapes. These two techniques it stop me being distracted by the letters themselves.
– mayersdesign
Nov 5 at 8:43
@stendarr: How to check if a kerning is good or bad? You blur it and check if the kerning is good or bad. :-/
– Eric Duminil
Nov 6 at 16:07
1
When checking image quality, e.g. when needing to check the big picture, this is actually what I've done for years. I wish this would work in programming, too. But in programming, squining typically yields dropped databases or flack'ed harddisks :S Changing perspective in general is a good thing - the real squinting method in programming would be to let code rest for some days, months, years, and re-visit it to check if it's still understandable. Alternatively, call it "eliminating the I context". This also works great when doing design, music, photography, all the arts.
– phresnel
2 days ago
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39
After blurring/inverting the text, what do you check for?
– Nat
Nov 4 at 15:02
10
He checks wether the keming is good or bad.
– stendarr
Nov 5 at 0:29
2
@Nat - I would focus on the basic CONTRAST and white-space of the letter shapes. These two techniques it stop me being distracted by the letters themselves.
– mayersdesign
Nov 5 at 8:43
@stendarr: How to check if a kerning is good or bad? You blur it and check if the kerning is good or bad. :-/
– Eric Duminil
Nov 6 at 16:07
1
When checking image quality, e.g. when needing to check the big picture, this is actually what I've done for years. I wish this would work in programming, too. But in programming, squining typically yields dropped databases or flack'ed harddisks :S Changing perspective in general is a good thing - the real squinting method in programming would be to let code rest for some days, months, years, and re-visit it to check if it's still understandable. Alternatively, call it "eliminating the I context". This also works great when doing design, music, photography, all the arts.
– phresnel
2 days ago
39
39
After blurring/inverting the text, what do you check for?
– Nat
Nov 4 at 15:02
After blurring/inverting the text, what do you check for?
– Nat
Nov 4 at 15:02
10
10
He checks wether the keming is good or bad.
– stendarr
Nov 5 at 0:29
He checks wether the keming is good or bad.
– stendarr
Nov 5 at 0:29
2
2
@Nat - I would focus on the basic CONTRAST and white-space of the letter shapes. These two techniques it stop me being distracted by the letters themselves.
– mayersdesign
Nov 5 at 8:43
@Nat - I would focus on the basic CONTRAST and white-space of the letter shapes. These two techniques it stop me being distracted by the letters themselves.
– mayersdesign
Nov 5 at 8:43
@stendarr: How to check if a kerning is good or bad? You blur it and check if the kerning is good or bad. :-/
– Eric Duminil
Nov 6 at 16:07
@stendarr: How to check if a kerning is good or bad? You blur it and check if the kerning is good or bad. :-/
– Eric Duminil
Nov 6 at 16:07
1
1
When checking image quality, e.g. when needing to check the big picture, this is actually what I've done for years. I wish this would work in programming, too. But in programming, squining typically yields dropped databases or flack'ed harddisks :S Changing perspective in general is a good thing - the real squinting method in programming would be to let code rest for some days, months, years, and re-visit it to check if it's still understandable. Alternatively, call it "eliminating the I context". This also works great when doing design, music, photography, all the arts.
– phresnel
2 days ago
When checking image quality, e.g. when needing to check the big picture, this is actually what I've done for years. I wish this would work in programming, too. But in programming, squining typically yields dropped databases or flack'ed harddisks :S Changing perspective in general is a good thing - the real squinting method in programming would be to let code rest for some days, months, years, and re-visit it to check if it's still understandable. Alternatively, call it "eliminating the I context". This also works great when doing design, music, photography, all the arts.
– phresnel
2 days ago
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Could be ok for a text, but for a logo it has some flaws.
The advantage of this case is that all joints are between a straight stroke and a curve stroke.
Taking x as a reference kerning between the straight and the curve, all the red arrows shows different separations.
This is my tip: imagine this logo like a giant construction on a wall, small mistakes will grow larger at the same time.
Edit with visual aspects:
- The resulting space between K and e is large enough to reduce the kerning since it visually gives some separation. In the resulting logo this space is bigger than the separation between e and r, when it should be the opposite or at list the same. The reference point is the closest stroke to the e, in this case the bottom oblique stroke.
- The r vertex next to the o should have at least the same separation that exists between two curved strokes or a curved and a straight stroke to visually be equated with the rest.
- If the separation between e and r is the parameter to follow between a curved and a straight stroke, the separation between u and a should be the same since it is the same situation.
a kerning c must be equal to e kerning r because these spaces have exactly the same visual relationship.
answered Nov 4 at 13:56
Danielillo
17.4k12464
17
Thanks a lot for your answer, but shouldn't kerning be visual before being geometric? I mean, a geometrically perfect design can look odd when an imperfect one can look good, right?
– maasha theytaz
Nov 4 at 14:33
4
Of course yes, must be visual, but try to see your logo bigger after my answer, with special attention to the red arrows separations: "Ke", "ro", "ua", "ac".
– Danielillo
Nov 4 at 14:40
3
Also, the space between the o and the u is visibly smaller than the spaces you've marked 3 and 4 in your final image.
– Dan Henderson
Nov 4 at 23:02
3
I wouldn't aim to follow the er/ou kerning, that's too narrow for my liking. I think the ac kerning might be the better reference.
– curiousdannii
Nov 5 at 5:19
6
Your IKEA example seems to contradict you since the “IK” spacing is much (!) wider than the other spacings, and yet the logo is generally perceived as well balanced.
– Konrad Rudolph
Nov 5 at 13:32
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up vote
38
down vote
Could be ok for a text, but for a logo it has some flaws.
The advantage of this case is that all joints are between a straight stroke and a curve stroke.
Taking x as a reference kerning between the straight and the curve, all the red arrows shows different separations.
This is my tip: imagine this logo like a giant construction on a wall, small mistakes will grow larger at the same time.
Edit with visual aspects:
- The resulting space between K and e is large enough to reduce the kerning since it visually gives some separation. In the resulting logo this space is bigger than the separation between e and r, when it should be the opposite or at list the same. The reference point is the closest stroke to the e, in this case the bottom oblique stroke.
- The r vertex next to the o should have at least the same separation that exists between two curved strokes or a curved and a straight stroke to visually be equated with the rest.
- If the separation between e and r is the parameter to follow between a curved and a straight stroke, the separation between u and a should be the same since it is the same situation.
a kerning c must be equal to e kerning r because these spaces have exactly the same visual relationship.
answered Nov 4 at 13:56
Danielillo
17.4k12464
17
Thanks a lot for your answer, but shouldn't kerning be visual before being geometric? I mean, a geometrically perfect design can look odd when an imperfect one can look good, right?
– maasha theytaz
Nov 4 at 14:33
4
Of course yes, must be visual, but try to see your logo bigger after my answer, with special attention to the red arrows separations: "Ke", "ro", "ua", "ac".
– Danielillo
Nov 4 at 14:40
3
Also, the space between the o and the u is visibly smaller than the spaces you've marked 3 and 4 in your final image.
– Dan Henderson
Nov 4 at 23:02
3
I wouldn't aim to follow the er/ou kerning, that's too narrow for my liking. I think the ac kerning might be the better reference.
– curiousdannii
Nov 5 at 5:19
6
Your IKEA example seems to contradict you since the “IK” spacing is much (!) wider than the other spacings, and yet the logo is generally perceived as well balanced.
– Konrad Rudolph
Nov 5 at 13:32
|
show 1 more comment
up vote
38
down vote
up vote
38
down vote
Could be ok for a text, but for a logo it has some flaws.
The advantage of this case is that all joints are between a straight stroke and a curve stroke.
Taking x as a reference kerning between the straight and the curve, all the red arrows shows different separations.
This is my tip: imagine this logo like a giant construction on a wall, small mistakes will grow larger at the same time.
Edit with visual aspects:
- The resulting space between K and e is large enough to reduce the kerning since it visually gives some separation. In the resulting logo this space is bigger than the separation between e and r, when it should be the opposite or at list the same. The reference point is the closest stroke to the e, in this case the bottom oblique stroke.
- The r vertex next to the o should have at least the same separation that exists between two curved strokes or a curved and a straight stroke to visually be equated with the rest.
- If the separation between e and r is the parameter to follow between a curved and a straight stroke, the separation between u and a should be the same since it is the same situation.
a kerning c must be equal to e kerning r because these spaces have exactly the same visual relationship.
answered Nov 4 at 13:56
Danielillo
17.4k12464
Could be ok for a text, but for a logo it has some flaws.
The advantage of this case is that all joints are between a straight stroke and a curve stroke.
Taking x as a reference kerning between the straight and the curve, all the red arrows shows different separations.
This is my tip: imagine this logo like a giant construction on a wall, small mistakes will grow larger at the same time.
Edit with visual aspects:
- The resulting space between K and e is large enough to reduce the kerning since it visually gives some separation. In the resulting logo this space is bigger than the separation between e and r, when it should be the opposite or at list the same. The reference point is the closest stroke to the e, in this case the bottom oblique stroke.
- The r vertex next to the o should have at least the same separation that exists between two curved strokes or a curved and a straight stroke to visually be equated with the rest.
- If the separation between e and r is the parameter to follow between a curved and a straight stroke, the separation between u and a should be the same since it is the same situation.
a kerning c must be equal to e kerning r because these spaces have exactly the same visual relationship.
answered Nov 4 at 13:56
Danielillo
17.4k12464
edited Nov 6 at 0:54
answered Nov 4 at 13:56
Danielillo
17.4k12464
answered Nov 4 at 13:56
Danielillo
17.4k12464
answered Nov 4 at 13:56
Danielillo
17.4k12464
17.4k12464
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Thanks a lot for your answer, but shouldn't kerning be visual before being geometric? I mean, a geometrically perfect design can look odd when an imperfect one can look good, right?
– maasha theytaz
Nov 4 at 14:33
4
Of course yes, must be visual, but try to see your logo bigger after my answer, with special attention to the red arrows separations: "Ke", "ro", "ua", "ac".
– Danielillo
Nov 4 at 14:40
3
Also, the space between the o and the u is visibly smaller than the spaces you've marked 3 and 4 in your final image.
– Dan Henderson
Nov 4 at 23:02
3
I wouldn't aim to follow the er/ou kerning, that's too narrow for my liking. I think the ac kerning might be the better reference.
– curiousdannii
Nov 5 at 5:19
6
Your IKEA example seems to contradict you since the “IK” spacing is much (!) wider than the other spacings, and yet the logo is generally perceived as well balanced.
– Konrad Rudolph
Nov 5 at 13:32
|
show 1 more comment
17
Thanks a lot for your answer, but shouldn't kerning be visual before being geometric? I mean, a geometrically perfect design can look odd when an imperfect one can look good, right?
– maasha theytaz
Nov 4 at 14:33
4
Of course yes, must be visual, but try to see your logo bigger after my answer, with special attention to the red arrows separations: "Ke", "ro", "ua", "ac".
– Danielillo
Nov 4 at 14:40
3
Also, the space between the o and the u is visibly smaller than the spaces you've marked 3 and 4 in your final image.
– Dan Henderson
Nov 4 at 23:02
3
I wouldn't aim to follow the er/ou kerning, that's too narrow for my liking. I think the ac kerning might be the better reference.
– curiousdannii
Nov 5 at 5:19
6
Your IKEA example seems to contradict you since the “IK” spacing is much (!) wider than the other spacings, and yet the logo is generally perceived as well balanced.
– Konrad Rudolph
Nov 5 at 13:32
17
17
Thanks a lot for your answer, but shouldn't kerning be visual before being geometric? I mean, a geometrically perfect design can look odd when an imperfect one can look good, right?
– maasha theytaz
Nov 4 at 14:33
Thanks a lot for your answer, but shouldn't kerning be visual before being geometric? I mean, a geometrically perfect design can look odd when an imperfect one can look good, right?
– maasha theytaz
Nov 4 at 14:33
4
4
Of course yes, must be visual, but try to see your logo bigger after my answer, with special attention to the red arrows separations: "Ke", "ro", "ua", "ac".
– Danielillo
Nov 4 at 14:40
Of course yes, must be visual, but try to see your logo bigger after my answer, with special attention to the red arrows separations: "Ke", "ro", "ua", "ac".
– Danielillo
Nov 4 at 14:40
3
3
Also, the space between the o and the u is visibly smaller than the spaces you've marked 3 and 4 in your final image.
– Dan Henderson
Nov 4 at 23:02
Also, the space between the o and the u is visibly smaller than the spaces you've marked 3 and 4 in your final image.
– Dan Henderson
Nov 4 at 23:02
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I wouldn't aim to follow the er/ou kerning, that's too narrow for my liking. I think the ac kerning might be the better reference.
– curiousdannii
Nov 5 at 5:19
I wouldn't aim to follow the er/ou kerning, that's too narrow for my liking. I think the ac kerning might be the better reference.
– curiousdannii
Nov 5 at 5:19
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Your IKEA example seems to contradict you since the “IK” spacing is much (!) wider than the other spacings, and yet the logo is generally perceived as well balanced.
– Konrad Rudolph
Nov 5 at 13:32
Your IKEA example seems to contradict you since the “IK” spacing is much (!) wider than the other spacings, and yet the logo is generally perceived as well balanced.
– Konrad Rudolph
Nov 5 at 13:32
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My suggestions are much like @Danielillo's feedback. His use of the geometric spacing simply indicated a problem I see visually in a much clearer way.
If it was me, I'd bring the first e closer to the K.
The r is too close to the o, and then the spacing on the a and the c should either shrink or expand to match the decision around the o.
When the text is made smaller, the overall look is slightly improved, but I'd still close the gap between the K and the e.
However, the use/size of the final text definitely has to be taken into account as stated.
If you were designing a font using that as a sample, end-users would be making fine adjustments to kerning anyway.
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My suggestions are much like @Danielillo's feedback. His use of the geometric spacing simply indicated a problem I see visually in a much clearer way.
If it was me, I'd bring the first e closer to the K.
The r is too close to the o, and then the spacing on the a and the c should either shrink or expand to match the decision around the o.
When the text is made smaller, the overall look is slightly improved, but I'd still close the gap between the K and the e.
However, the use/size of the final text definitely has to be taken into account as stated.
If you were designing a font using that as a sample, end-users would be making fine adjustments to kerning anyway.
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My suggestions are much like @Danielillo's feedback. His use of the geometric spacing simply indicated a problem I see visually in a much clearer way.
If it was me, I'd bring the first e closer to the K.
The r is too close to the o, and then the spacing on the a and the c should either shrink or expand to match the decision around the o.
When the text is made smaller, the overall look is slightly improved, but I'd still close the gap between the K and the e.
However, the use/size of the final text definitely has to be taken into account as stated.
If you were designing a font using that as a sample, end-users would be making fine adjustments to kerning anyway.
answered Nov 6 at 1:35
Rick Henderson
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My suggestions are much like @Danielillo's feedback. His use of the geometric spacing simply indicated a problem I see visually in a much clearer way.
If it was me, I'd bring the first e closer to the K.
The r is too close to the o, and then the spacing on the a and the c should either shrink or expand to match the decision around the o.
When the text is made smaller, the overall look is slightly improved, but I'd still close the gap between the K and the e.
However, the use/size of the final text definitely has to be taken into account as stated.
If you were designing a font using that as a sample, end-users would be making fine adjustments to kerning anyway.
answered Nov 6 at 1:35
Rick Henderson
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answered Nov 6 at 1:35
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What size do you plan to set that at? Is this for a logo or poster, or is it for regular body text?
– tchrist
Nov 4 at 14:34
Looks fine to me.
– Lucian
Nov 4 at 15:10
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– WELZ
Nov 4 at 15:37
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The only thing that stood out to me was the large corner radius on the "k". Looks strange and is not really fitting letter form according to my eyes.
– filip
Nov 4 at 17:24
Every character is lowercase, except for the K which is some kind of stunted capital letter. It just feels wrong and will date faster, I feel.
– Criggie
Nov 6 at 6:07