How does mtry affect the speed of randomForest when tuning with cross validation in R?












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I tried to tune my randomForest model with codes below:



trControl=trainControl(method="cv",number=10)

tuneGrid = expand.grid(mtry=1:5)


And then I used



train(model,data=data,method="rf",ntree=500,trControl=trControl,tuneGrid=tuneGrid)


to find for the best mtry



It took about 3 hours to finish



However, when I changed expand.grid(mtry=1:5) to expand.grid(mtry=1:8), the codes did not finish in more than 9 hours. I want to ask how does the parameter mtry affect the speed of tuning randomForest. Or in other words, what exactly does the parameter mtry do in the tuning process?










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    @12b345b6b78 No, ntree is the number of trees built. mtry is the number of features tried out at each split to find the most significant. Fewer options to test will make the model run faster, but usually you care more about a metric like accuracy or RMSE more than run time, so mtry is optimized accordingly.
    – alistaire
    Nov 13 '18 at 4:30












  • You might want to use method = "ranger". This will use the randomForest from the ranger package and will speed up your code significantly.
    – phiver
    Nov 13 '18 at 12:18










  • @phiver, Hi, thanks for your advice. I tried to use method = "ranger' but it returns error that says "something is wrong, all the rmse are missing". But the same error did not occur when using method = "rf"
    – Sanguis
    Nov 13 '18 at 15:07
















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I tried to tune my randomForest model with codes below:



trControl=trainControl(method="cv",number=10)

tuneGrid = expand.grid(mtry=1:5)


And then I used



train(model,data=data,method="rf",ntree=500,trControl=trControl,tuneGrid=tuneGrid)


to find for the best mtry



It took about 3 hours to finish



However, when I changed expand.grid(mtry=1:5) to expand.grid(mtry=1:8), the codes did not finish in more than 9 hours. I want to ask how does the parameter mtry affect the speed of tuning randomForest. Or in other words, what exactly does the parameter mtry do in the tuning process?










share|improve this question




















  • 4




    @12b345b6b78 No, ntree is the number of trees built. mtry is the number of features tried out at each split to find the most significant. Fewer options to test will make the model run faster, but usually you care more about a metric like accuracy or RMSE more than run time, so mtry is optimized accordingly.
    – alistaire
    Nov 13 '18 at 4:30












  • You might want to use method = "ranger". This will use the randomForest from the ranger package and will speed up your code significantly.
    – phiver
    Nov 13 '18 at 12:18










  • @phiver, Hi, thanks for your advice. I tried to use method = "ranger' but it returns error that says "something is wrong, all the rmse are missing". But the same error did not occur when using method = "rf"
    – Sanguis
    Nov 13 '18 at 15:07














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I tried to tune my randomForest model with codes below:



trControl=trainControl(method="cv",number=10)

tuneGrid = expand.grid(mtry=1:5)


And then I used



train(model,data=data,method="rf",ntree=500,trControl=trControl,tuneGrid=tuneGrid)


to find for the best mtry



It took about 3 hours to finish



However, when I changed expand.grid(mtry=1:5) to expand.grid(mtry=1:8), the codes did not finish in more than 9 hours. I want to ask how does the parameter mtry affect the speed of tuning randomForest. Or in other words, what exactly does the parameter mtry do in the tuning process?










share|improve this question















I tried to tune my randomForest model with codes below:



trControl=trainControl(method="cv",number=10)

tuneGrid = expand.grid(mtry=1:5)


And then I used



train(model,data=data,method="rf",ntree=500,trControl=trControl,tuneGrid=tuneGrid)


to find for the best mtry



It took about 3 hours to finish



However, when I changed expand.grid(mtry=1:5) to expand.grid(mtry=1:8), the codes did not finish in more than 9 hours. I want to ask how does the parameter mtry affect the speed of tuning randomForest. Or in other words, what exactly does the parameter mtry do in the tuning process?







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    @12b345b6b78 No, ntree is the number of trees built. mtry is the number of features tried out at each split to find the most significant. Fewer options to test will make the model run faster, but usually you care more about a metric like accuracy or RMSE more than run time, so mtry is optimized accordingly.
    – alistaire
    Nov 13 '18 at 4:30












  • You might want to use method = "ranger". This will use the randomForest from the ranger package and will speed up your code significantly.
    – phiver
    Nov 13 '18 at 12:18










  • @phiver, Hi, thanks for your advice. I tried to use method = "ranger' but it returns error that says "something is wrong, all the rmse are missing". But the same error did not occur when using method = "rf"
    – Sanguis
    Nov 13 '18 at 15:07














  • 4




    @12b345b6b78 No, ntree is the number of trees built. mtry is the number of features tried out at each split to find the most significant. Fewer options to test will make the model run faster, but usually you care more about a metric like accuracy or RMSE more than run time, so mtry is optimized accordingly.
    – alistaire
    Nov 13 '18 at 4:30












  • You might want to use method = "ranger". This will use the randomForest from the ranger package and will speed up your code significantly.
    – phiver
    Nov 13 '18 at 12:18










  • @phiver, Hi, thanks for your advice. I tried to use method = "ranger' but it returns error that says "something is wrong, all the rmse are missing". But the same error did not occur when using method = "rf"
    – Sanguis
    Nov 13 '18 at 15:07








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@12b345b6b78 No, ntree is the number of trees built. mtry is the number of features tried out at each split to find the most significant. Fewer options to test will make the model run faster, but usually you care more about a metric like accuracy or RMSE more than run time, so mtry is optimized accordingly.
– alistaire
Nov 13 '18 at 4:30






@12b345b6b78 No, ntree is the number of trees built. mtry is the number of features tried out at each split to find the most significant. Fewer options to test will make the model run faster, but usually you care more about a metric like accuracy or RMSE more than run time, so mtry is optimized accordingly.
– alistaire
Nov 13 '18 at 4:30














You might want to use method = "ranger". This will use the randomForest from the ranger package and will speed up your code significantly.
– phiver
Nov 13 '18 at 12:18




You might want to use method = "ranger". This will use the randomForest from the ranger package and will speed up your code significantly.
– phiver
Nov 13 '18 at 12:18












@phiver, Hi, thanks for your advice. I tried to use method = "ranger' but it returns error that says "something is wrong, all the rmse are missing". But the same error did not occur when using method = "rf"
– Sanguis
Nov 13 '18 at 15:07




@phiver, Hi, thanks for your advice. I tried to use method = "ranger' but it returns error that says "something is wrong, all the rmse are missing". But the same error did not occur when using method = "rf"
– Sanguis
Nov 13 '18 at 15:07












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