Fan speed switch: why OFF :: HIGH :: MED :: LOW?
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Many AC fans, including inexpensive floor models, have a rotary speed control which rotates from OFF to HIGH to MED to LOW. Since the switch does not rotate 360°, you have to rotate it backwards to shut it off. This has always slightly annoyed me, because it appears to make no logical sense to have to speed the fan up to turn it off.
Why are the speed settings from fastest to slowest? This design seems counter-intuitive, but I assume there is a good reason because the design is so common.
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Many AC fans, including inexpensive floor models, have a rotary speed control which rotates from OFF to HIGH to MED to LOW. Since the switch does not rotate 360°, you have to rotate it backwards to shut it off. This has always slightly annoyed me, because it appears to make no logical sense to have to speed the fan up to turn it off.
Why are the speed settings from fastest to slowest? This design seems counter-intuitive, but I assume there is a good reason because the design is so common.
motor switches induction-motor fan
asked Nov 3 at 12:23
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Just to note, ceiling fans with a pull cord seem to follow the paradigm too, only it cycles from low to off and then back to high again.
– Michael
Nov 3 at 17:18
@Michael Ceiling fans with a rotary switch though often have a circular option. Go from 0 > 1 > 2 > 3 > 4 > 5 > 0. But those take a lot longer to accelerate to the set speed than small floor models, so they have a different design altogether.
– Mast
Nov 4 at 13:22
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I have five ceiling fans at home and one of them is opposite this - it goes off to low to medium to high - and it drives everyone crazy. Whether there is currently a reason for the common design or not, there is certainly a precedent created by fans having this design that makes it logical to keep it that way.
– Moshe Katz
Nov 4 at 23:30
1
@MosheKatz I've seen a few floor fans now that use the more intuitive off-low-med-high which indeed is simultaneously counterintuitive if you have done it the other way your whole life. It may be that there is a switchover to Brushless DC motors in some models, which have embedded electronics that knows how to start the motor, and for which the low-med-high fan speed settings are really just targets for the circuit to achieve.
– uhoh
2 days ago
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up vote
52
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Many AC fans, including inexpensive floor models, have a rotary speed control which rotates from OFF to HIGH to MED to LOW. Since the switch does not rotate 360°, you have to rotate it backwards to shut it off. This has always slightly annoyed me, because it appears to make no logical sense to have to speed the fan up to turn it off.
Why are the speed settings from fastest to slowest? This design seems counter-intuitive, but I assume there is a good reason because the design is so common.
motor switches induction-motor fan
asked Nov 3 at 12:23
RichF
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Many AC fans, including inexpensive floor models, have a rotary speed control which rotates from OFF to HIGH to MED to LOW. Since the switch does not rotate 360°, you have to rotate it backwards to shut it off. This has always slightly annoyed me, because it appears to make no logical sense to have to speed the fan up to turn it off.
Why are the speed settings from fastest to slowest? This design seems counter-intuitive, but I assume there is a good reason because the design is so common.
motor switches induction-motor fan
motor switches induction-motor fan
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Just to note, ceiling fans with a pull cord seem to follow the paradigm too, only it cycles from low to off and then back to high again.
– Michael
Nov 3 at 17:18
@Michael Ceiling fans with a rotary switch though often have a circular option. Go from 0 > 1 > 2 > 3 > 4 > 5 > 0. But those take a lot longer to accelerate to the set speed than small floor models, so they have a different design altogether.
– Mast
Nov 4 at 13:22
1
I have five ceiling fans at home and one of them is opposite this - it goes off to low to medium to high - and it drives everyone crazy. Whether there is currently a reason for the common design or not, there is certainly a precedent created by fans having this design that makes it logical to keep it that way.
– Moshe Katz
Nov 4 at 23:30
1
@MosheKatz I've seen a few floor fans now that use the more intuitive off-low-med-high which indeed is simultaneously counterintuitive if you have done it the other way your whole life. It may be that there is a switchover to Brushless DC motors in some models, which have embedded electronics that knows how to start the motor, and for which the low-med-high fan speed settings are really just targets for the circuit to achieve.
– uhoh
2 days ago
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Just to note, ceiling fans with a pull cord seem to follow the paradigm too, only it cycles from low to off and then back to high again.
– Michael
Nov 3 at 17:18
@Michael Ceiling fans with a rotary switch though often have a circular option. Go from 0 > 1 > 2 > 3 > 4 > 5 > 0. But those take a lot longer to accelerate to the set speed than small floor models, so they have a different design altogether.
– Mast
Nov 4 at 13:22
1
I have five ceiling fans at home and one of them is opposite this - it goes off to low to medium to high - and it drives everyone crazy. Whether there is currently a reason for the common design or not, there is certainly a precedent created by fans having this design that makes it logical to keep it that way.
– Moshe Katz
Nov 4 at 23:30
1
@MosheKatz I've seen a few floor fans now that use the more intuitive off-low-med-high which indeed is simultaneously counterintuitive if you have done it the other way your whole life. It may be that there is a switchover to Brushless DC motors in some models, which have embedded electronics that knows how to start the motor, and for which the low-med-high fan speed settings are really just targets for the circuit to achieve.
– uhoh
2 days ago
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4
Just to note, ceiling fans with a pull cord seem to follow the paradigm too, only it cycles from low to off and then back to high again.
– Michael
Nov 3 at 17:18
Just to note, ceiling fans with a pull cord seem to follow the paradigm too, only it cycles from low to off and then back to high again.
– Michael
Nov 3 at 17:18
@Michael Ceiling fans with a rotary switch though often have a circular option. Go from 0 > 1 > 2 > 3 > 4 > 5 > 0. But those take a lot longer to accelerate to the set speed than small floor models, so they have a different design altogether.
– Mast
Nov 4 at 13:22
@Michael Ceiling fans with a rotary switch though often have a circular option. Go from 0 > 1 > 2 > 3 > 4 > 5 > 0. But those take a lot longer to accelerate to the set speed than small floor models, so they have a different design altogether.
– Mast
Nov 4 at 13:22
1
1
I have five ceiling fans at home and one of them is opposite this - it goes off to low to medium to high - and it drives everyone crazy. Whether there is currently a reason for the common design or not, there is certainly a precedent created by fans having this design that makes it logical to keep it that way.
– Moshe Katz
Nov 4 at 23:30
I have five ceiling fans at home and one of them is opposite this - it goes off to low to medium to high - and it drives everyone crazy. Whether there is currently a reason for the common design or not, there is certainly a precedent created by fans having this design that makes it logical to keep it that way.
– Moshe Katz
Nov 4 at 23:30
1
1
@MosheKatz I've seen a few floor fans now that use the more intuitive off-low-med-high which indeed is simultaneously counterintuitive if you have done it the other way your whole life. It may be that there is a switchover to Brushless DC motors in some models, which have embedded electronics that knows how to start the motor, and for which the low-med-high fan speed settings are really just targets for the circuit to achieve.
– uhoh
2 days ago
@MosheKatz I've seen a few floor fans now that use the more intuitive off-low-med-high which indeed is simultaneously counterintuitive if you have done it the other way your whole life. It may be that there is a switchover to Brushless DC motors in some models, which have embedded electronics that knows how to start the motor, and for which the low-med-high fan speed settings are really just targets for the circuit to achieve.
– uhoh
2 days ago
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Fans of that type have induction motors with two windings with a capacitor in series with one of the windings. For every individual motor design there is a certain capacitor value that allows the motor to develop maximum torque and operate at the maximum corresponding speed. Smaller capacitor values are used to reduce the torque so that the load overcomes the motor's torque and slows the motor down.
When the motor is turned on, the motor must overcome the static friction of the bearings and get the fan moving. It must then accelerate the motor inertia. That means that using the highest torque setting is desirable for starting the motor. Once the fan is moving, the torque can be reduced for lower speed operation.
answered Nov 3 at 13:24
Charles Cowie
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Starting on high is also preferred for non-induction motors, when the application allows.
– Brock Adams
Nov 3 at 17:43
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Seems like this could be tested by unplugging the fan, turning the switch to low, and plugging the fan back in, couldn’t it?
– dudeman
Nov 4 at 4:55
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@dudeman I have a cheap fan blowing on me at this very moment where I have to turn it to high for a few seconds before switching to low or else it never gets enough speed to keep spinning.
– fluffy
Nov 4 at 5:04
4
So it's effectively an abstraction leak, albeit a fair one for a simple mechanical process.
– Lightness Races in Orbit
2 days ago
1
I have several cheap box fans throughout my house, all with High as the first setting, and all perfectly able to start on the Low setting. Static friction certainly doesn't seem to be a concern here. Maybe they're designing for 10 years from now when the motor is filled with dust, but I'd like to see confirmation of this from one of the actual designers.
– James
2 days ago
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It may be intentionally designed to force the fan on "high" for it to spin up before allowing it to drop back down to "low"
The amount of power needed to overcome the static rolling resistance can be higher than what is output to maintain the "low" speed, thus it could end up stalling and not moving or only wiggling back and forth on a "low" setting
answered Nov 3 at 17:44
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Not just fans
A lot of devices are designed this way. It almost seems standard, even though I agree it is counter-intuitive.
For example, in my kitchen I have:
- Cooktop hood fan/light - fan goes from Off to High to Low (continuous except for switch Off)
- Cooktop hood fan/light - light goes from Off to High to Low (discrete settings)
- Cooktop gas burners - Off to High to Low (continuous except for switch Off)
In the case of the fan, the other answers regarding motor startup make sense and would apply to this fan as well.
In the case of the light, I suspect it is to match the fan since it is part of the same device.
In the case of the burners, I think it is because ignition needs to be done when first turning on a burner and ignition is most reliable on the High setting, so starting with High makes sense.
The end result is all using the counter-intuitive Off->High->Low
answered Nov 4 at 2:12
manassehkatz
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The gas burners are because ignition is more reliable at high power (conceptually similar to the fans), and the flame-out sensor needs a bit of warming up, which can take a long time on low. My cooker hood extractor has discrete settings and can be left on low with a separate on switch - just as well as high is deafening
– Chris H
2 days ago
6
The gas burner settings are made so that you can't accidentally turn the cooker off when trying to achieve a low setting. The difference between just-on and just-off is harder to distinguish than full-on and full-off. I would not be surprised if the same reasoning applies to fans.
– Sanchises
2 days ago
My cooktop hood fan has four separate buttons for off, low, medium, high and you can start it by pressing any one of the three "not-off" buttons.
– David Richerby
2 days ago
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3 Answers
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active
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active
oldest
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active
oldest
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up vote
84
down vote
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Fans of that type have induction motors with two windings with a capacitor in series with one of the windings. For every individual motor design there is a certain capacitor value that allows the motor to develop maximum torque and operate at the maximum corresponding speed. Smaller capacitor values are used to reduce the torque so that the load overcomes the motor's torque and slows the motor down.
When the motor is turned on, the motor must overcome the static friction of the bearings and get the fan moving. It must then accelerate the motor inertia. That means that using the highest torque setting is desirable for starting the motor. Once the fan is moving, the torque can be reduced for lower speed operation.
answered Nov 3 at 13:24
Charles Cowie
19.3k11537
4
Starting on high is also preferred for non-induction motors, when the application allows.
– Brock Adams
Nov 3 at 17:43
4
Seems like this could be tested by unplugging the fan, turning the switch to low, and plugging the fan back in, couldn’t it?
– dudeman
Nov 4 at 4:55
10
@dudeman I have a cheap fan blowing on me at this very moment where I have to turn it to high for a few seconds before switching to low or else it never gets enough speed to keep spinning.
– fluffy
Nov 4 at 5:04
4
So it's effectively an abstraction leak, albeit a fair one for a simple mechanical process.
– Lightness Races in Orbit
2 days ago
1
I have several cheap box fans throughout my house, all with High as the first setting, and all perfectly able to start on the Low setting. Static friction certainly doesn't seem to be a concern here. Maybe they're designing for 10 years from now when the motor is filled with dust, but I'd like to see confirmation of this from one of the actual designers.
– James
2 days ago
add a comment |
up vote
84
down vote
accepted
Fans of that type have induction motors with two windings with a capacitor in series with one of the windings. For every individual motor design there is a certain capacitor value that allows the motor to develop maximum torque and operate at the maximum corresponding speed. Smaller capacitor values are used to reduce the torque so that the load overcomes the motor's torque and slows the motor down.
When the motor is turned on, the motor must overcome the static friction of the bearings and get the fan moving. It must then accelerate the motor inertia. That means that using the highest torque setting is desirable for starting the motor. Once the fan is moving, the torque can be reduced for lower speed operation.
answered Nov 3 at 13:24
Charles Cowie
19.3k11537
4
Starting on high is also preferred for non-induction motors, when the application allows.
– Brock Adams
Nov 3 at 17:43
4
Seems like this could be tested by unplugging the fan, turning the switch to low, and plugging the fan back in, couldn’t it?
– dudeman
Nov 4 at 4:55
10
@dudeman I have a cheap fan blowing on me at this very moment where I have to turn it to high for a few seconds before switching to low or else it never gets enough speed to keep spinning.
– fluffy
Nov 4 at 5:04
4
So it's effectively an abstraction leak, albeit a fair one for a simple mechanical process.
– Lightness Races in Orbit
2 days ago
1
I have several cheap box fans throughout my house, all with High as the first setting, and all perfectly able to start on the Low setting. Static friction certainly doesn't seem to be a concern here. Maybe they're designing for 10 years from now when the motor is filled with dust, but I'd like to see confirmation of this from one of the actual designers.
– James
2 days ago
add a comment |
up vote
84
down vote
accepted
up vote
84
down vote
accepted
Fans of that type have induction motors with two windings with a capacitor in series with one of the windings. For every individual motor design there is a certain capacitor value that allows the motor to develop maximum torque and operate at the maximum corresponding speed. Smaller capacitor values are used to reduce the torque so that the load overcomes the motor's torque and slows the motor down.
When the motor is turned on, the motor must overcome the static friction of the bearings and get the fan moving. It must then accelerate the motor inertia. That means that using the highest torque setting is desirable for starting the motor. Once the fan is moving, the torque can be reduced for lower speed operation.
answered Nov 3 at 13:24
Charles Cowie
19.3k11537
Fans of that type have induction motors with two windings with a capacitor in series with one of the windings. For every individual motor design there is a certain capacitor value that allows the motor to develop maximum torque and operate at the maximum corresponding speed. Smaller capacitor values are used to reduce the torque so that the load overcomes the motor's torque and slows the motor down.
When the motor is turned on, the motor must overcome the static friction of the bearings and get the fan moving. It must then accelerate the motor inertia. That means that using the highest torque setting is desirable for starting the motor. Once the fan is moving, the torque can be reduced for lower speed operation.
answered Nov 3 at 13:24
Charles Cowie
19.3k11537
edited 2 days ago
answered Nov 3 at 13:24
Charles Cowie
19.3k11537
answered Nov 3 at 13:24
Charles Cowie
19.3k11537
answered Nov 3 at 13:24
Charles Cowie
19.3k11537
19.3k11537
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Starting on high is also preferred for non-induction motors, when the application allows.
– Brock Adams
Nov 3 at 17:43
4
Seems like this could be tested by unplugging the fan, turning the switch to low, and plugging the fan back in, couldn’t it?
– dudeman
Nov 4 at 4:55
10
@dudeman I have a cheap fan blowing on me at this very moment where I have to turn it to high for a few seconds before switching to low or else it never gets enough speed to keep spinning.
– fluffy
Nov 4 at 5:04
4
So it's effectively an abstraction leak, albeit a fair one for a simple mechanical process.
– Lightness Races in Orbit
2 days ago
1
I have several cheap box fans throughout my house, all with High as the first setting, and all perfectly able to start on the Low setting. Static friction certainly doesn't seem to be a concern here. Maybe they're designing for 10 years from now when the motor is filled with dust, but I'd like to see confirmation of this from one of the actual designers.
– James
2 days ago
add a comment |
4
Starting on high is also preferred for non-induction motors, when the application allows.
– Brock Adams
Nov 3 at 17:43
4
Seems like this could be tested by unplugging the fan, turning the switch to low, and plugging the fan back in, couldn’t it?
– dudeman
Nov 4 at 4:55
10
@dudeman I have a cheap fan blowing on me at this very moment where I have to turn it to high for a few seconds before switching to low or else it never gets enough speed to keep spinning.
– fluffy
Nov 4 at 5:04
4
So it's effectively an abstraction leak, albeit a fair one for a simple mechanical process.
– Lightness Races in Orbit
2 days ago
1
I have several cheap box fans throughout my house, all with High as the first setting, and all perfectly able to start on the Low setting. Static friction certainly doesn't seem to be a concern here. Maybe they're designing for 10 years from now when the motor is filled with dust, but I'd like to see confirmation of this from one of the actual designers.
– James
2 days ago
4
4
Starting on high is also preferred for non-induction motors, when the application allows.
– Brock Adams
Nov 3 at 17:43
Starting on high is also preferred for non-induction motors, when the application allows.
– Brock Adams
Nov 3 at 17:43
4
4
Seems like this could be tested by unplugging the fan, turning the switch to low, and plugging the fan back in, couldn’t it?
– dudeman
Nov 4 at 4:55
Seems like this could be tested by unplugging the fan, turning the switch to low, and plugging the fan back in, couldn’t it?
– dudeman
Nov 4 at 4:55
10
10
@dudeman I have a cheap fan blowing on me at this very moment where I have to turn it to high for a few seconds before switching to low or else it never gets enough speed to keep spinning.
– fluffy
Nov 4 at 5:04
@dudeman I have a cheap fan blowing on me at this very moment where I have to turn it to high for a few seconds before switching to low or else it never gets enough speed to keep spinning.
– fluffy
Nov 4 at 5:04
4
4
So it's effectively an abstraction leak, albeit a fair one for a simple mechanical process.
– Lightness Races in Orbit
2 days ago
So it's effectively an abstraction leak, albeit a fair one for a simple mechanical process.
– Lightness Races in Orbit
2 days ago
1
1
I have several cheap box fans throughout my house, all with High as the first setting, and all perfectly able to start on the Low setting. Static friction certainly doesn't seem to be a concern here. Maybe they're designing for 10 years from now when the motor is filled with dust, but I'd like to see confirmation of this from one of the actual designers.
– James
2 days ago
I have several cheap box fans throughout my house, all with High as the first setting, and all perfectly able to start on the Low setting. Static friction certainly doesn't seem to be a concern here. Maybe they're designing for 10 years from now when the motor is filled with dust, but I'd like to see confirmation of this from one of the actual designers.
– James
2 days ago
add a comment |
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12
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It may be intentionally designed to force the fan on "high" for it to spin up before allowing it to drop back down to "low"
The amount of power needed to overcome the static rolling resistance can be higher than what is output to maintain the "low" speed, thus it could end up stalling and not moving or only wiggling back and forth on a "low" setting
answered Nov 3 at 17:44
user2813274
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up vote
12
down vote
It may be intentionally designed to force the fan on "high" for it to spin up before allowing it to drop back down to "low"
The amount of power needed to overcome the static rolling resistance can be higher than what is output to maintain the "low" speed, thus it could end up stalling and not moving or only wiggling back and forth on a "low" setting
answered Nov 3 at 17:44
user2813274
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add a comment |
up vote
12
down vote
up vote
12
down vote
It may be intentionally designed to force the fan on "high" for it to spin up before allowing it to drop back down to "low"
The amount of power needed to overcome the static rolling resistance can be higher than what is output to maintain the "low" speed, thus it could end up stalling and not moving or only wiggling back and forth on a "low" setting
answered Nov 3 at 17:44
user2813274
362220
It may be intentionally designed to force the fan on "high" for it to spin up before allowing it to drop back down to "low"
The amount of power needed to overcome the static rolling resistance can be higher than what is output to maintain the "low" speed, thus it could end up stalling and not moving or only wiggling back and forth on a "low" setting
answered Nov 3 at 17:44
user2813274
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answered Nov 3 at 17:44
user2813274
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answered Nov 3 at 17:44
user2813274
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answered Nov 3 at 17:44
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Not just fans
A lot of devices are designed this way. It almost seems standard, even though I agree it is counter-intuitive.
For example, in my kitchen I have:
- Cooktop hood fan/light - fan goes from Off to High to Low (continuous except for switch Off)
- Cooktop hood fan/light - light goes from Off to High to Low (discrete settings)
- Cooktop gas burners - Off to High to Low (continuous except for switch Off)
In the case of the fan, the other answers regarding motor startup make sense and would apply to this fan as well.
In the case of the light, I suspect it is to match the fan since it is part of the same device.
In the case of the burners, I think it is because ignition needs to be done when first turning on a burner and ignition is most reliable on the High setting, so starting with High makes sense.
The end result is all using the counter-intuitive Off->High->Low
answered Nov 4 at 2:12
manassehkatz
20516
3
The gas burners are because ignition is more reliable at high power (conceptually similar to the fans), and the flame-out sensor needs a bit of warming up, which can take a long time on low. My cooker hood extractor has discrete settings and can be left on low with a separate on switch - just as well as high is deafening
– Chris H
2 days ago
6
The gas burner settings are made so that you can't accidentally turn the cooker off when trying to achieve a low setting. The difference between just-on and just-off is harder to distinguish than full-on and full-off. I would not be surprised if the same reasoning applies to fans.
– Sanchises
2 days ago
My cooktop hood fan has four separate buttons for off, low, medium, high and you can start it by pressing any one of the three "not-off" buttons.
– David Richerby
2 days ago
add a comment |
up vote
7
down vote
Not just fans
A lot of devices are designed this way. It almost seems standard, even though I agree it is counter-intuitive.
For example, in my kitchen I have:
- Cooktop hood fan/light - fan goes from Off to High to Low (continuous except for switch Off)
- Cooktop hood fan/light - light goes from Off to High to Low (discrete settings)
- Cooktop gas burners - Off to High to Low (continuous except for switch Off)
In the case of the fan, the other answers regarding motor startup make sense and would apply to this fan as well.
In the case of the light, I suspect it is to match the fan since it is part of the same device.
In the case of the burners, I think it is because ignition needs to be done when first turning on a burner and ignition is most reliable on the High setting, so starting with High makes sense.
The end result is all using the counter-intuitive Off->High->Low
answered Nov 4 at 2:12
manassehkatz
20516
3
The gas burners are because ignition is more reliable at high power (conceptually similar to the fans), and the flame-out sensor needs a bit of warming up, which can take a long time on low. My cooker hood extractor has discrete settings and can be left on low with a separate on switch - just as well as high is deafening
– Chris H
2 days ago
6
The gas burner settings are made so that you can't accidentally turn the cooker off when trying to achieve a low setting. The difference between just-on and just-off is harder to distinguish than full-on and full-off. I would not be surprised if the same reasoning applies to fans.
– Sanchises
2 days ago
My cooktop hood fan has four separate buttons for off, low, medium, high and you can start it by pressing any one of the three "not-off" buttons.
– David Richerby
2 days ago
add a comment |
up vote
7
down vote
up vote
7
down vote
Not just fans
A lot of devices are designed this way. It almost seems standard, even though I agree it is counter-intuitive.
For example, in my kitchen I have:
- Cooktop hood fan/light - fan goes from Off to High to Low (continuous except for switch Off)
- Cooktop hood fan/light - light goes from Off to High to Low (discrete settings)
- Cooktop gas burners - Off to High to Low (continuous except for switch Off)
In the case of the fan, the other answers regarding motor startup make sense and would apply to this fan as well.
In the case of the light, I suspect it is to match the fan since it is part of the same device.
In the case of the burners, I think it is because ignition needs to be done when first turning on a burner and ignition is most reliable on the High setting, so starting with High makes sense.
The end result is all using the counter-intuitive Off->High->Low
answered Nov 4 at 2:12
manassehkatz
20516
Not just fans
A lot of devices are designed this way. It almost seems standard, even though I agree it is counter-intuitive.
For example, in my kitchen I have:
- Cooktop hood fan/light - fan goes from Off to High to Low (continuous except for switch Off)
- Cooktop hood fan/light - light goes from Off to High to Low (discrete settings)
- Cooktop gas burners - Off to High to Low (continuous except for switch Off)
In the case of the fan, the other answers regarding motor startup make sense and would apply to this fan as well.
In the case of the light, I suspect it is to match the fan since it is part of the same device.
In the case of the burners, I think it is because ignition needs to be done when first turning on a burner and ignition is most reliable on the High setting, so starting with High makes sense.
The end result is all using the counter-intuitive Off->High->Low
answered Nov 4 at 2:12
manassehkatz
20516
answered Nov 4 at 2:12
manassehkatz
20516
answered Nov 4 at 2:12
manassehkatz
20516
answered Nov 4 at 2:12
manassehkatz
20516
20516
3
The gas burners are because ignition is more reliable at high power (conceptually similar to the fans), and the flame-out sensor needs a bit of warming up, which can take a long time on low. My cooker hood extractor has discrete settings and can be left on low with a separate on switch - just as well as high is deafening
– Chris H
2 days ago
6
The gas burner settings are made so that you can't accidentally turn the cooker off when trying to achieve a low setting. The difference between just-on and just-off is harder to distinguish than full-on and full-off. I would not be surprised if the same reasoning applies to fans.
– Sanchises
2 days ago
My cooktop hood fan has four separate buttons for off, low, medium, high and you can start it by pressing any one of the three "not-off" buttons.
– David Richerby
2 days ago
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The gas burners are because ignition is more reliable at high power (conceptually similar to the fans), and the flame-out sensor needs a bit of warming up, which can take a long time on low. My cooker hood extractor has discrete settings and can be left on low with a separate on switch - just as well as high is deafening
– Chris H
2 days ago
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The gas burner settings are made so that you can't accidentally turn the cooker off when trying to achieve a low setting. The difference between just-on and just-off is harder to distinguish than full-on and full-off. I would not be surprised if the same reasoning applies to fans.
– Sanchises
2 days ago
My cooktop hood fan has four separate buttons for off, low, medium, high and you can start it by pressing any one of the three "not-off" buttons.
– David Richerby
2 days ago
3
3
The gas burners are because ignition is more reliable at high power (conceptually similar to the fans), and the flame-out sensor needs a bit of warming up, which can take a long time on low. My cooker hood extractor has discrete settings and can be left on low with a separate on switch - just as well as high is deafening
– Chris H
2 days ago
The gas burners are because ignition is more reliable at high power (conceptually similar to the fans), and the flame-out sensor needs a bit of warming up, which can take a long time on low. My cooker hood extractor has discrete settings and can be left on low with a separate on switch - just as well as high is deafening
– Chris H
2 days ago
6
6
The gas burner settings are made so that you can't accidentally turn the cooker off when trying to achieve a low setting. The difference between just-on and just-off is harder to distinguish than full-on and full-off. I would not be surprised if the same reasoning applies to fans.
– Sanchises
2 days ago
The gas burner settings are made so that you can't accidentally turn the cooker off when trying to achieve a low setting. The difference between just-on and just-off is harder to distinguish than full-on and full-off. I would not be surprised if the same reasoning applies to fans.
– Sanchises
2 days ago
My cooktop hood fan has four separate buttons for off, low, medium, high and you can start it by pressing any one of the three "not-off" buttons.
– David Richerby
2 days ago
My cooktop hood fan has four separate buttons for off, low, medium, high and you can start it by pressing any one of the three "not-off" buttons.
– David Richerby
2 days ago
add a comment |
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Just to note, ceiling fans with a pull cord seem to follow the paradigm too, only it cycles from low to off and then back to high again.
– Michael
Nov 3 at 17:18
@Michael Ceiling fans with a rotary switch though often have a circular option. Go from 0 > 1 > 2 > 3 > 4 > 5 > 0. But those take a lot longer to accelerate to the set speed than small floor models, so they have a different design altogether.
– Mast
Nov 4 at 13:22
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I have five ceiling fans at home and one of them is opposite this - it goes off to low to medium to high - and it drives everyone crazy. Whether there is currently a reason for the common design or not, there is certainly a precedent created by fans having this design that makes it logical to keep it that way.
– Moshe Katz
Nov 4 at 23:30
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@MosheKatz I've seen a few floor fans now that use the more intuitive off-low-med-high which indeed is simultaneously counterintuitive if you have done it the other way your whole life. It may be that there is a switchover to Brushless DC motors in some models, which have embedded electronics that knows how to start the motor, and for which the low-med-high fan speed settings are really just targets for the circuit to achieve.
– uhoh
2 days ago