Wrestling with substitution rules











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I am struggling with substitution rules.



Example



Here are several cases which are problematic:



Clear[a,α];
{a + 2 b + 1, -a - b, 2 a + 2 b, a^2 + 2 a b + b^2} /. {a + b -> α}


Actual result:



{1 + a + 2 b, -a - b, 2 a + 2 b, a^2 + 2 a b + b^2}


Desired result:



{1 + α +  b, -α, 2 α, α^2}


Question



Currently, the rule is permuted for every case, e.g.



2 a + 2 b -> 2α


Can the alpha substitution rule be generalized That, is there a single rule to handle all cases?










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    You mean: "One to rule them all"? ;)
    – Henrik Schumacher
    Nov 4 at 18:38








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    Use PolynomialReduce to obtain algebraic "substitutions". In[208]:= PolynomialReduce[{a + 2 b + 1, -a - b, 2 a + 2 b, a^2 + 2 a b + b^2}, a + b - alpha, {a, b}][[All, 2]] Out[208]= {1 + alpha + b, -alpha, 2 alpha, alpha^2}
    – Daniel Lichtblau
    Nov 4 at 19:14






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    Generally, to apply a relationship broadly, write the corresponding rule such that the LHS of the rule is as simple as possible, e.g., solution posted by @HenrikSchumacher. Since rules are applied to the structure of the internal (FullForm) representation, this will result in the highest number of matches with the LHS.
    – Bob Hanlon
    Nov 4 at 19:38















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Summary



I am struggling with substitution rules.



Example



Here are several cases which are problematic:



Clear[a,α];
{a + 2 b + 1, -a - b, 2 a + 2 b, a^2 + 2 a b + b^2} /. {a + b -> α}


Actual result:



{1 + a + 2 b, -a - b, 2 a + 2 b, a^2 + 2 a b + b^2}


Desired result:



{1 + α +  b, -α, 2 α, α^2}


Question



Currently, the rule is permuted for every case, e.g.



2 a + 2 b -> 2α


Can the alpha substitution rule be generalized That, is there a single rule to handle all cases?










share|improve this question




















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    You mean: "One to rule them all"? ;)
    – Henrik Schumacher
    Nov 4 at 18:38








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    Use PolynomialReduce to obtain algebraic "substitutions". In[208]:= PolynomialReduce[{a + 2 b + 1, -a - b, 2 a + 2 b, a^2 + 2 a b + b^2}, a + b - alpha, {a, b}][[All, 2]] Out[208]= {1 + alpha + b, -alpha, 2 alpha, alpha^2}
    – Daniel Lichtblau
    Nov 4 at 19:14






  • 1




    Generally, to apply a relationship broadly, write the corresponding rule such that the LHS of the rule is as simple as possible, e.g., solution posted by @HenrikSchumacher. Since rules are applied to the structure of the internal (FullForm) representation, this will result in the highest number of matches with the LHS.
    – Bob Hanlon
    Nov 4 at 19:38













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Summary



I am struggling with substitution rules.



Example



Here are several cases which are problematic:



Clear[a,α];
{a + 2 b + 1, -a - b, 2 a + 2 b, a^2 + 2 a b + b^2} /. {a + b -> α}


Actual result:



{1 + a + 2 b, -a - b, 2 a + 2 b, a^2 + 2 a b + b^2}


Desired result:



{1 + α +  b, -α, 2 α, α^2}


Question



Currently, the rule is permuted for every case, e.g.



2 a + 2 b -> 2α


Can the alpha substitution rule be generalized That, is there a single rule to handle all cases?










share|improve this question















Summary



I am struggling with substitution rules.



Example



Here are several cases which are problematic:



Clear[a,α];
{a + 2 b + 1, -a - b, 2 a + 2 b, a^2 + 2 a b + b^2} /. {a + b -> α}


Actual result:



{1 + a + 2 b, -a - b, 2 a + 2 b, a^2 + 2 a b + b^2}


Desired result:



{1 + α +  b, -α, 2 α, α^2}


Question



Currently, the rule is permuted for every case, e.g.



2 a + 2 b -> 2α


Can the alpha substitution rule be generalized That, is there a single rule to handle all cases?







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    You mean: "One to rule them all"? ;)
    – Henrik Schumacher
    Nov 4 at 18:38








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    Use PolynomialReduce to obtain algebraic "substitutions". In[208]:= PolynomialReduce[{a + 2 b + 1, -a - b, 2 a + 2 b, a^2 + 2 a b + b^2}, a + b - alpha, {a, b}][[All, 2]] Out[208]= {1 + alpha + b, -alpha, 2 alpha, alpha^2}
    – Daniel Lichtblau
    Nov 4 at 19:14






  • 1




    Generally, to apply a relationship broadly, write the corresponding rule such that the LHS of the rule is as simple as possible, e.g., solution posted by @HenrikSchumacher. Since rules are applied to the structure of the internal (FullForm) representation, this will result in the highest number of matches with the LHS.
    – Bob Hanlon
    Nov 4 at 19:38














  • 2




    You mean: "One to rule them all"? ;)
    – Henrik Schumacher
    Nov 4 at 18:38








  • 1




    Use PolynomialReduce to obtain algebraic "substitutions". In[208]:= PolynomialReduce[{a + 2 b + 1, -a - b, 2 a + 2 b, a^2 + 2 a b + b^2}, a + b - alpha, {a, b}][[All, 2]] Out[208]= {1 + alpha + b, -alpha, 2 alpha, alpha^2}
    – Daniel Lichtblau
    Nov 4 at 19:14






  • 1




    Generally, to apply a relationship broadly, write the corresponding rule such that the LHS of the rule is as simple as possible, e.g., solution posted by @HenrikSchumacher. Since rules are applied to the structure of the internal (FullForm) representation, this will result in the highest number of matches with the LHS.
    – Bob Hanlon
    Nov 4 at 19:38








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You mean: "One to rule them all"? ;)
– Henrik Schumacher
Nov 4 at 18:38






You mean: "One to rule them all"? ;)
– Henrik Schumacher
Nov 4 at 18:38






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Use PolynomialReduce to obtain algebraic "substitutions". In[208]:= PolynomialReduce[{a + 2 b + 1, -a - b, 2 a + 2 b, a^2 + 2 a b + b^2}, a + b - alpha, {a, b}][[All, 2]] Out[208]= {1 + alpha + b, -alpha, 2 alpha, alpha^2}
– Daniel Lichtblau
Nov 4 at 19:14




Use PolynomialReduce to obtain algebraic "substitutions". In[208]:= PolynomialReduce[{a + 2 b + 1, -a - b, 2 a + 2 b, a^2 + 2 a b + b^2}, a + b - alpha, {a, b}][[All, 2]] Out[208]= {1 + alpha + b, -alpha, 2 alpha, alpha^2}
– Daniel Lichtblau
Nov 4 at 19:14




1




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Generally, to apply a relationship broadly, write the corresponding rule such that the LHS of the rule is as simple as possible, e.g., solution posted by @HenrikSchumacher. Since rules are applied to the structure of the internal (FullForm) representation, this will result in the highest number of matches with the LHS.
– Bob Hanlon
Nov 4 at 19:38




Generally, to apply a relationship broadly, write the corresponding rule such that the LHS of the rule is as simple as possible, e.g., solution posted by @HenrikSchumacher. Since rules are applied to the structure of the internal (FullForm) representation, this will result in the highest number of matches with the LHS.
– Bob Hanlon
Nov 4 at 19:38










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{a + 2 b + 1, -a - b, 2 a + 2 b, a^2 + 2 a b + b^2} /. {a -> α - b} // Simplify



{1 + b + α, -α, 2 α, α^2}







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    Simplify[{a + 2 b + 1, -a - b, 2 a + 2 b,  a^2 + 2 a b + b^2}, {a + b == α}]



    {1 + b + α, -α, 2 α, α^2}







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      {a + 2 b + 1, -a - b, 2 a + 2 b, a^2 + 2 a b + b^2} /. {a -> α - b} // Simplify



      {1 + b + α, -α, 2 α, α^2}







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        {a + 2 b + 1, -a - b, 2 a + 2 b, a^2 + 2 a b + b^2} /. {a -> α - b} // Simplify



        {1 + b + α, -α, 2 α, α^2}







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          {a + 2 b + 1, -a - b, 2 a + 2 b, a^2 + 2 a b + b^2} /. {a -> α - b} // Simplify



          {1 + b + α, -α, 2 α, α^2}







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          {a + 2 b + 1, -a - b, 2 a + 2 b, a^2 + 2 a b + b^2} /. {a -> α - b} // Simplify



          {1 + b + α, -α, 2 α, α^2}








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              Simplify[{a + 2 b + 1, -a - b, 2 a + 2 b,  a^2 + 2 a b + b^2}, {a + b == α}]



              {1 + b + α, -α, 2 α, α^2}







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                Simplify[{a + 2 b + 1, -a - b, 2 a + 2 b,  a^2 + 2 a b + b^2}, {a + b == α}]



                {1 + b + α, -α, 2 α, α^2}







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                  Simplify[{a + 2 b + 1, -a - b, 2 a + 2 b,  a^2 + 2 a b + b^2}, {a + b == α}]



                  {1 + b + α, -α, 2 α, α^2}







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                  Also



                  Simplify[{a + 2 b + 1, -a - b, 2 a + 2 b,  a^2 + 2 a b + b^2}, {a + b == α}]



                  {1 + b + α, -α, 2 α, α^2}








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