What are the benefits of becoming an academic administrator?











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Why do some professors choose to go into academic administration (e.g., become associate deans, etc.)? I've always assumed the main attraction is that they get paid more.



But I've also thought that if I wanted to make more money than I do as a professor, I'd just leave academia entirely and take a job in industry, where I could probably earn 30-40 percent more. I'd have less flexibility in industry than I have as a professor in terms of what I research and what my work hours are. But the same would be true if I went into administration at a university (which would probably still not pay as well as industry).



So I've never seen a real benefit of going into administration, given that the extra pay does not (to me) offset the extra responsibilities (especially when the best-paying jobs are outside of academia entirely). Are there other benefits of being an academic administrator that I'm overlooking?










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    Well, there isn't really an "industry" for professors in many fields to make big bucks.
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    One reason -- they become an administrator because they failed in research and teaching. In other words, administrators are failed academics.
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    @Prof.SantaClaus So it's the Dilbert Principle - incompetent people get promoted to management, because that's where they do the least harm.
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    @SimonB or because both skillsets are required to some degree at the entry level, and those with a relative advantage in the skills that correspond to administration naturally gravitate there.
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Why do some professors choose to go into academic administration (e.g., become associate deans, etc.)? I've always assumed the main attraction is that they get paid more.



But I've also thought that if I wanted to make more money than I do as a professor, I'd just leave academia entirely and take a job in industry, where I could probably earn 30-40 percent more. I'd have less flexibility in industry than I have as a professor in terms of what I research and what my work hours are. But the same would be true if I went into administration at a university (which would probably still not pay as well as industry).



So I've never seen a real benefit of going into administration, given that the extra pay does not (to me) offset the extra responsibilities (especially when the best-paying jobs are outside of academia entirely). Are there other benefits of being an academic administrator that I'm overlooking?










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    Well, there isn't really an "industry" for professors in many fields to make big bucks.
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    One reason -- they become an administrator because they failed in research and teaching. In other words, administrators are failed academics.
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    @Prof.SantaClaus So it's the Dilbert Principle - incompetent people get promoted to management, because that's where they do the least harm.
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    @SimonB or because both skillsets are required to some degree at the entry level, and those with a relative advantage in the skills that correspond to administration naturally gravitate there.
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Why do some professors choose to go into academic administration (e.g., become associate deans, etc.)? I've always assumed the main attraction is that they get paid more.



But I've also thought that if I wanted to make more money than I do as a professor, I'd just leave academia entirely and take a job in industry, where I could probably earn 30-40 percent more. I'd have less flexibility in industry than I have as a professor in terms of what I research and what my work hours are. But the same would be true if I went into administration at a university (which would probably still not pay as well as industry).



So I've never seen a real benefit of going into administration, given that the extra pay does not (to me) offset the extra responsibilities (especially when the best-paying jobs are outside of academia entirely). Are there other benefits of being an academic administrator that I'm overlooking?










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Why do some professors choose to go into academic administration (e.g., become associate deans, etc.)? I've always assumed the main attraction is that they get paid more.



But I've also thought that if I wanted to make more money than I do as a professor, I'd just leave academia entirely and take a job in industry, where I could probably earn 30-40 percent more. I'd have less flexibility in industry than I have as a professor in terms of what I research and what my work hours are. But the same would be true if I went into administration at a university (which would probably still not pay as well as industry).



So I've never seen a real benefit of going into administration, given that the extra pay does not (to me) offset the extra responsibilities (especially when the best-paying jobs are outside of academia entirely). Are there other benefits of being an academic administrator that I'm overlooking?







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    Well, there isn't really an "industry" for professors in many fields to make big bucks.
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    One reason -- they become an administrator because they failed in research and teaching. In other words, administrators are failed academics.
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    @Prof.SantaClaus So it's the Dilbert Principle - incompetent people get promoted to management, because that's where they do the least harm.
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    @SimonB or because both skillsets are required to some degree at the entry level, and those with a relative advantage in the skills that correspond to administration naturally gravitate there.
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    Well, there isn't really an "industry" for professors in many fields to make big bucks.
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    One reason -- they become an administrator because they failed in research and teaching. In other words, administrators are failed academics.
    – Prof. Santa Claus
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    @Prof.SantaClaus So it's the Dilbert Principle - incompetent people get promoted to management, because that's where they do the least harm.
    – Simon B
    Nov 7 at 13:50






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    @SimonB or because both skillsets are required to some degree at the entry level, and those with a relative advantage in the skills that correspond to administration naturally gravitate there.
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Well, there isn't really an "industry" for professors in many fields to make big bucks.
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Well, there isn't really an "industry" for professors in many fields to make big bucks.
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One reason -- they become an administrator because they failed in research and teaching. In other words, administrators are failed academics.
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One reason -- they become an administrator because they failed in research and teaching. In other words, administrators are failed academics.
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@Prof.SantaClaus So it's the Dilbert Principle - incompetent people get promoted to management, because that's where they do the least harm.
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@Prof.SantaClaus So it's the Dilbert Principle - incompetent people get promoted to management, because that's where they do the least harm.
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@SimonB or because both skillsets are required to some degree at the entry level, and those with a relative advantage in the skills that correspond to administration naturally gravitate there.
– fectin
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@SimonB or because both skillsets are required to some degree at the entry level, and those with a relative advantage in the skills that correspond to administration naturally gravitate there.
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I feel like I'm pointing out the glaringly obvious, but many people actually want to make their institution a better place, design policies that benefit future students and colleagues, etc.






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    Perhaps some also do it for the prestige and power that come with such a role. Or they prefer the managerial rather than research side of their job.
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    Yeah, just about everyone would like to see their institution become a better place. But like the original poster, I, too, find it curious that someone would spend so many years as an undergraduate and then a graduate student and then a faculty member becoming an expert in an academic field that they love only to give that all up and become an administrator. If their life goal was just to become an administrator that's a pretty roundabout path. Think that there must be more involved here (e.g., changing priorities as one ages, or a sense that one has reached one's limit in their field, etc.)
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    @SamuelWeir also job security, burn out from research & the grant cycle.
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    But sadly for many institutions, "wanting to make it a better place" and "having the right leadership skills to succeed in making it a better place" are two different things.
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    @SamuelWeir I don't see how its "giving it all up" at all. The President at a former institution continued to teach and had several postdocs. One of the Vice Chancellors was a well-known scientist and I actively collaborated with him and his research group. In his case, the administrative position replaced teaching duties but allowed time for research. Additionally, a lot of endowed positions come with discretionary funds which replace some grant money. And when they leave the position, they usually revert to their professorship, so they are motivated to keep research going.
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A benefit not mentioned in the other answers is a reduced teaching load in many universities. Possibly zero teaching load. If someone does not like teaching, but likes (or has a lesser dislike of) administration and research, then the reduced teaching is a motive to become an administrator.






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    Oftentimes, these administrative positions are only temporary and after a while, professors having such positions will become regular professors again.



    This means that they can (1) work on improving their department, (2) perhaps get a higher salary for some time, (3) get reduced teaching load, and (4) help to grow their professional network within the university, all while having the assurance that the job that they actually like to do (Professor) for will be waiting for them when they don't want the higher responsibilities any more (or are not re-elected to these positions).



    This is something that you can't get by switching to a job outside of academia -- once you are out of academia for a few years, it's quite difficult to get a good academic position as your scientific output is normally lower (or insignificant) when working for a company (perhaps with a few exceptions). Hence, you won't be such an attractive candidate (again, with exceptions).






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      I've also seen them be mandatory/strongly encouraged with each professor required to serve a term in a departmental administrative position.
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      In our university, you get to keep the higher salary, or at least a big chunk of it, when you go back to being a regular professor.
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    One factor I don't see mentioned in other answers: pensions. In one school I'm familiar with, your pension is 75% of your salary averaged over your five best years. So if you are department chair or dean near the end of your career (as is usually the case), you get the ~40% bump not only for those 3-5 years, but effectively for the rest of your life. Particularly since the increased administrative load may be partially offset by a reduced teaching load, this is not a bad deal.






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      This is, I presume, highly country-specific. Not the case in Finland or Denmark, for example.
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    Echoing the other answer: some people do see the opportunity to better their university. Also, in my experience, some people decide that, even though they did well-enough in research-and-teaching to get tenure, etc., that this is not their genuine strength. So, having considerable understanding of both research and teaching, they are uniquely qualified to try to administer things related to that. We rarely hire "professional managers" in academe, because we do not trust that they know what is going on here.






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      Why do people want to be professor? They do less direct research (compared to post-docs or full time researchers) but instead they let other people execute their ideas. If you become head of department or a whole university, you can "steer" a lot more people but you become more indirect.



      It is similar to why people climb the hierarchical ladder in industry. They loose contact with the real work but their thinking influences more people.






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        Your first paragraph is completely wrong, IMO. Why do people become professors instead of postdocs? Because a professorship is a permanent position and people get tired of jumping around institutions and countries after some time. Why do people become professors rather than full time researchers? Because research-only positions are rare and very competitive. In fact, full time researchers have more time to manage big teams and write research proposals to get grants and thus a bigger team.
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        @user2357: By full-time researcher I mean someone without a team below. These positions exists, e.g., in France or Germany in goverment -funded research labs which are outside of Universities. Examples are Inria or Frauenhofer. Even in your sense, professors are more indirect regarding research.
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      • In France, you mean chargé de recherches abd directeurs de recherche? Then I'm sorry to say that you are wrong. A CR/DR is exactly like a professor, except they don't teach.
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      A few more aspects of motivation I have not yet heard mentioned are:





      • Salary. In many universities, senior administrative positions offer a salary increase over the (often uniform) salary grade of a professor. For most people this is a secondary motivation, and Professors' salaries are not that low to begin with, but it does carry some weight.


      • Prestige. It makes many people feel more accomplished to have reached higher positions or ranks; to be more in the public eye; to speak for their departments or universities in various circumstances. Some might consider this vanity (and there are certainly vain people in such positions at times), but social recognition does motivate most people at least to some extent.


      • Getting away from research. Paradoxical, isn't it? Well, some Professors are not as motivated as they used to be. Or - dislike the current fashions in their field. Or have just evolved as people and want to try something different in life, without quitting their job. An administrative position is a way of doing that instead of focusing mostly on your research.


      Having said that - I agree with @RaghuParthasarathy's answer, that the primary motivation is hopefully the wish to actually do right by your institute or department.






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        Here at the college I work for, our state retirement system (FRS, florida) administrative positions above a certain level accrue retirement pay at 3% per year vs. 2% per year for us peons. Additionally, retirement pay is based on the average of the highest 3 years of earnings from any FRS employer. Rather common for admin types to teach a few classes as adjunct or run for city/county political positions, or to teach overloads, etc. all as a way to crank that retirement paycheck up as high as you can get it.



        Our administration also pull faculty away from the classroom (we aren't a research institution) to work on special projects like our SACS accreditation, etc. though this is usually time limited (1-5 years) with a promise of returning to the classroom and no loss of tenure, etc.



        So from here at a "junior college" type place, it is about that retirement pay.






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          The difference between "administration" and "teaching" in a university is like the difference between the managerial and technical tracks in a corporation.



          The "average" university person probably wants to remain on the "technical" or "professor" track, but some people will prefer administrative duties, and a chance to exert executive power, either inside or outside the university.



          As a child, I didn't want to be a movie star, but I did want to be a "producer," which would have made me their boss. That was true even though I knew that the stars made more money.






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            In systems where internal appointment of academic management still exists some staff members who are collegial or union will put themselves forward in order to prevent the filling of the role by an unknown external, an uncollegial peer, a non-union worker, or a yellow dog or scab.



            To the extent that the academic management role has some freedom of action they may be able to protect their unit from higher levels of management for a period of time.



            This perspective assumes a higher level of proletarianisation, class conflict and class consciousness amongst academics in a unit; but, I have seen the case in the Australian system. Sometime everyone else steps backwards faster when colleagues ask for a volunteer.






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              I feel like I'm pointing out the glaringly obvious, but many people actually want to make their institution a better place, design policies that benefit future students and colleagues, etc.






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                Perhaps some also do it for the prestige and power that come with such a role. Or they prefer the managerial rather than research side of their job.
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                Yeah, just about everyone would like to see their institution become a better place. But like the original poster, I, too, find it curious that someone would spend so many years as an undergraduate and then a graduate student and then a faculty member becoming an expert in an academic field that they love only to give that all up and become an administrator. If their life goal was just to become an administrator that's a pretty roundabout path. Think that there must be more involved here (e.g., changing priorities as one ages, or a sense that one has reached one's limit in their field, etc.)
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                @SamuelWeir also job security, burn out from research & the grant cycle.
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                But sadly for many institutions, "wanting to make it a better place" and "having the right leadership skills to succeed in making it a better place" are two different things.
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                @SamuelWeir I don't see how its "giving it all up" at all. The President at a former institution continued to teach and had several postdocs. One of the Vice Chancellors was a well-known scientist and I actively collaborated with him and his research group. In his case, the administrative position replaced teaching duties but allowed time for research. Additionally, a lot of endowed positions come with discretionary funds which replace some grant money. And when they leave the position, they usually revert to their professorship, so they are motivated to keep research going.
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                Perhaps some also do it for the prestige and power that come with such a role. Or they prefer the managerial rather than research side of their job.
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                Yeah, just about everyone would like to see their institution become a better place. But like the original poster, I, too, find it curious that someone would spend so many years as an undergraduate and then a graduate student and then a faculty member becoming an expert in an academic field that they love only to give that all up and become an administrator. If their life goal was just to become an administrator that's a pretty roundabout path. Think that there must be more involved here (e.g., changing priorities as one ages, or a sense that one has reached one's limit in their field, etc.)
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                @SamuelWeir also job security, burn out from research & the grant cycle.
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                But sadly for many institutions, "wanting to make it a better place" and "having the right leadership skills to succeed in making it a better place" are two different things.
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                @SamuelWeir I don't see how its "giving it all up" at all. The President at a former institution continued to teach and had several postdocs. One of the Vice Chancellors was a well-known scientist and I actively collaborated with him and his research group. In his case, the administrative position replaced teaching duties but allowed time for research. Additionally, a lot of endowed positions come with discretionary funds which replace some grant money. And when they leave the position, they usually revert to their professorship, so they are motivated to keep research going.
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              I feel like I'm pointing out the glaringly obvious, but many people actually want to make their institution a better place, design policies that benefit future students and colleagues, etc.






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                Perhaps some also do it for the prestige and power that come with such a role. Or they prefer the managerial rather than research side of their job.
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                Yeah, just about everyone would like to see their institution become a better place. But like the original poster, I, too, find it curious that someone would spend so many years as an undergraduate and then a graduate student and then a faculty member becoming an expert in an academic field that they love only to give that all up and become an administrator. If their life goal was just to become an administrator that's a pretty roundabout path. Think that there must be more involved here (e.g., changing priorities as one ages, or a sense that one has reached one's limit in their field, etc.)
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                @SamuelWeir also job security, burn out from research & the grant cycle.
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                But sadly for many institutions, "wanting to make it a better place" and "having the right leadership skills to succeed in making it a better place" are two different things.
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                @SamuelWeir I don't see how its "giving it all up" at all. The President at a former institution continued to teach and had several postdocs. One of the Vice Chancellors was a well-known scientist and I actively collaborated with him and his research group. In his case, the administrative position replaced teaching duties but allowed time for research. Additionally, a lot of endowed positions come with discretionary funds which replace some grant money. And when they leave the position, they usually revert to their professorship, so they are motivated to keep research going.
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                Perhaps some also do it for the prestige and power that come with such a role. Or they prefer the managerial rather than research side of their job.
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                Yeah, just about everyone would like to see their institution become a better place. But like the original poster, I, too, find it curious that someone would spend so many years as an undergraduate and then a graduate student and then a faculty member becoming an expert in an academic field that they love only to give that all up and become an administrator. If their life goal was just to become an administrator that's a pretty roundabout path. Think that there must be more involved here (e.g., changing priorities as one ages, or a sense that one has reached one's limit in their field, etc.)
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                @SamuelWeir also job security, burn out from research & the grant cycle.
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                But sadly for many institutions, "wanting to make it a better place" and "having the right leadership skills to succeed in making it a better place" are two different things.
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                @SamuelWeir I don't see how its "giving it all up" at all. The President at a former institution continued to teach and had several postdocs. One of the Vice Chancellors was a well-known scientist and I actively collaborated with him and his research group. In his case, the administrative position replaced teaching duties but allowed time for research. Additionally, a lot of endowed positions come with discretionary funds which replace some grant money. And when they leave the position, they usually revert to their professorship, so they are motivated to keep research going.
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              Perhaps some also do it for the prestige and power that come with such a role. Or they prefer the managerial rather than research side of their job.
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              Yeah, just about everyone would like to see their institution become a better place. But like the original poster, I, too, find it curious that someone would spend so many years as an undergraduate and then a graduate student and then a faculty member becoming an expert in an academic field that they love only to give that all up and become an administrator. If their life goal was just to become an administrator that's a pretty roundabout path. Think that there must be more involved here (e.g., changing priorities as one ages, or a sense that one has reached one's limit in their field, etc.)
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              Yeah, just about everyone would like to see their institution become a better place. But like the original poster, I, too, find it curious that someone would spend so many years as an undergraduate and then a graduate student and then a faculty member becoming an expert in an academic field that they love only to give that all up and become an administrator. If their life goal was just to become an administrator that's a pretty roundabout path. Think that there must be more involved here (e.g., changing priorities as one ages, or a sense that one has reached one's limit in their field, etc.)
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              @SamuelWeir also job security, burn out from research & the grant cycle.
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              @SamuelWeir also job security, burn out from research & the grant cycle.
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              But sadly for many institutions, "wanting to make it a better place" and "having the right leadership skills to succeed in making it a better place" are two different things.
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              But sadly for many institutions, "wanting to make it a better place" and "having the right leadership skills to succeed in making it a better place" are two different things.
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              @SamuelWeir I don't see how its "giving it all up" at all. The President at a former institution continued to teach and had several postdocs. One of the Vice Chancellors was a well-known scientist and I actively collaborated with him and his research group. In his case, the administrative position replaced teaching duties but allowed time for research. Additionally, a lot of endowed positions come with discretionary funds which replace some grant money. And when they leave the position, they usually revert to their professorship, so they are motivated to keep research going.
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              @SamuelWeir I don't see how its "giving it all up" at all. The President at a former institution continued to teach and had several postdocs. One of the Vice Chancellors was a well-known scientist and I actively collaborated with him and his research group. In his case, the administrative position replaced teaching duties but allowed time for research. Additionally, a lot of endowed positions come with discretionary funds which replace some grant money. And when they leave the position, they usually revert to their professorship, so they are motivated to keep research going.
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              A benefit not mentioned in the other answers is a reduced teaching load in many universities. Possibly zero teaching load. If someone does not like teaching, but likes (or has a lesser dislike of) administration and research, then the reduced teaching is a motive to become an administrator.






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                A benefit not mentioned in the other answers is a reduced teaching load in many universities. Possibly zero teaching load. If someone does not like teaching, but likes (or has a lesser dislike of) administration and research, then the reduced teaching is a motive to become an administrator.






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                  A benefit not mentioned in the other answers is a reduced teaching load in many universities. Possibly zero teaching load. If someone does not like teaching, but likes (or has a lesser dislike of) administration and research, then the reduced teaching is a motive to become an administrator.






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                  A benefit not mentioned in the other answers is a reduced teaching load in many universities. Possibly zero teaching load. If someone does not like teaching, but likes (or has a lesser dislike of) administration and research, then the reduced teaching is a motive to become an administrator.







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                      Oftentimes, these administrative positions are only temporary and after a while, professors having such positions will become regular professors again.



                      This means that they can (1) work on improving their department, (2) perhaps get a higher salary for some time, (3) get reduced teaching load, and (4) help to grow their professional network within the university, all while having the assurance that the job that they actually like to do (Professor) for will be waiting for them when they don't want the higher responsibilities any more (or are not re-elected to these positions).



                      This is something that you can't get by switching to a job outside of academia -- once you are out of academia for a few years, it's quite difficult to get a good academic position as your scientific output is normally lower (or insignificant) when working for a company (perhaps with a few exceptions). Hence, you won't be such an attractive candidate (again, with exceptions).






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                        I've also seen them be mandatory/strongly encouraged with each professor required to serve a term in a departmental administrative position.
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                        In our university, you get to keep the higher salary, or at least a big chunk of it, when you go back to being a regular professor.
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                      Oftentimes, these administrative positions are only temporary and after a while, professors having such positions will become regular professors again.



                      This means that they can (1) work on improving their department, (2) perhaps get a higher salary for some time, (3) get reduced teaching load, and (4) help to grow their professional network within the university, all while having the assurance that the job that they actually like to do (Professor) for will be waiting for them when they don't want the higher responsibilities any more (or are not re-elected to these positions).



                      This is something that you can't get by switching to a job outside of academia -- once you are out of academia for a few years, it's quite difficult to get a good academic position as your scientific output is normally lower (or insignificant) when working for a company (perhaps with a few exceptions). Hence, you won't be such an attractive candidate (again, with exceptions).






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                        I've also seen them be mandatory/strongly encouraged with each professor required to serve a term in a departmental administrative position.
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                        In our university, you get to keep the higher salary, or at least a big chunk of it, when you go back to being a regular professor.
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                      Oftentimes, these administrative positions are only temporary and after a while, professors having such positions will become regular professors again.



                      This means that they can (1) work on improving their department, (2) perhaps get a higher salary for some time, (3) get reduced teaching load, and (4) help to grow their professional network within the university, all while having the assurance that the job that they actually like to do (Professor) for will be waiting for them when they don't want the higher responsibilities any more (or are not re-elected to these positions).



                      This is something that you can't get by switching to a job outside of academia -- once you are out of academia for a few years, it's quite difficult to get a good academic position as your scientific output is normally lower (or insignificant) when working for a company (perhaps with a few exceptions). Hence, you won't be such an attractive candidate (again, with exceptions).






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                      Oftentimes, these administrative positions are only temporary and after a while, professors having such positions will become regular professors again.



                      This means that they can (1) work on improving their department, (2) perhaps get a higher salary for some time, (3) get reduced teaching load, and (4) help to grow their professional network within the university, all while having the assurance that the job that they actually like to do (Professor) for will be waiting for them when they don't want the higher responsibilities any more (or are not re-elected to these positions).



                      This is something that you can't get by switching to a job outside of academia -- once you are out of academia for a few years, it's quite difficult to get a good academic position as your scientific output is normally lower (or insignificant) when working for a company (perhaps with a few exceptions). Hence, you won't be such an attractive candidate (again, with exceptions).







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                        I've also seen them be mandatory/strongly encouraged with each professor required to serve a term in a departmental administrative position.
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                        In our university, you get to keep the higher salary, or at least a big chunk of it, when you go back to being a regular professor.
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                        I've also seen them be mandatory/strongly encouraged with each professor required to serve a term in a departmental administrative position.
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                        In our university, you get to keep the higher salary, or at least a big chunk of it, when you go back to being a regular professor.
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                      I've also seen them be mandatory/strongly encouraged with each professor required to serve a term in a departmental administrative position.
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                      I've also seen them be mandatory/strongly encouraged with each professor required to serve a term in a departmental administrative position.
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                      In our university, you get to keep the higher salary, or at least a big chunk of it, when you go back to being a regular professor.
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                      In our university, you get to keep the higher salary, or at least a big chunk of it, when you go back to being a regular professor.
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                      One factor I don't see mentioned in other answers: pensions. In one school I'm familiar with, your pension is 75% of your salary averaged over your five best years. So if you are department chair or dean near the end of your career (as is usually the case), you get the ~40% bump not only for those 3-5 years, but effectively for the rest of your life. Particularly since the increased administrative load may be partially offset by a reduced teaching load, this is not a bad deal.






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                        This is, I presume, highly country-specific. Not the case in Finland or Denmark, for example.
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                      • True for Australia AFAIK
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                      One factor I don't see mentioned in other answers: pensions. In one school I'm familiar with, your pension is 75% of your salary averaged over your five best years. So if you are department chair or dean near the end of your career (as is usually the case), you get the ~40% bump not only for those 3-5 years, but effectively for the rest of your life. Particularly since the increased administrative load may be partially offset by a reduced teaching load, this is not a bad deal.






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                        This is, I presume, highly country-specific. Not the case in Finland or Denmark, for example.
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                      • True for Australia AFAIK
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                      One factor I don't see mentioned in other answers: pensions. In one school I'm familiar with, your pension is 75% of your salary averaged over your five best years. So if you are department chair or dean near the end of your career (as is usually the case), you get the ~40% bump not only for those 3-5 years, but effectively for the rest of your life. Particularly since the increased administrative load may be partially offset by a reduced teaching load, this is not a bad deal.






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                      One factor I don't see mentioned in other answers: pensions. In one school I'm familiar with, your pension is 75% of your salary averaged over your five best years. So if you are department chair or dean near the end of your career (as is usually the case), you get the ~40% bump not only for those 3-5 years, but effectively for the rest of your life. Particularly since the increased administrative load may be partially offset by a reduced teaching load, this is not a bad deal.







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                        This is, I presume, highly country-specific. Not the case in Finland or Denmark, for example.
                        – Tommi Brander
                        Nov 9 at 9:29










                      • True for Australia AFAIK
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                        This is, I presume, highly country-specific. Not the case in Finland or Denmark, for example.
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                        Nov 9 at 9:29










                      • True for Australia AFAIK
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                        Nov 9 at 10:58








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                      This is, I presume, highly country-specific. Not the case in Finland or Denmark, for example.
                      – Tommi Brander
                      Nov 9 at 9:29




                      This is, I presume, highly country-specific. Not the case in Finland or Denmark, for example.
                      – Tommi Brander
                      Nov 9 at 9:29












                      True for Australia AFAIK
                      – Gimelist
                      Nov 9 at 10:58




                      True for Australia AFAIK
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                      Echoing the other answer: some people do see the opportunity to better their university. Also, in my experience, some people decide that, even though they did well-enough in research-and-teaching to get tenure, etc., that this is not their genuine strength. So, having considerable understanding of both research and teaching, they are uniquely qualified to try to administer things related to that. We rarely hire "professional managers" in academe, because we do not trust that they know what is going on here.






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                        Echoing the other answer: some people do see the opportunity to better their university. Also, in my experience, some people decide that, even though they did well-enough in research-and-teaching to get tenure, etc., that this is not their genuine strength. So, having considerable understanding of both research and teaching, they are uniquely qualified to try to administer things related to that. We rarely hire "professional managers" in academe, because we do not trust that they know what is going on here.






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                          Echoing the other answer: some people do see the opportunity to better their university. Also, in my experience, some people decide that, even though they did well-enough in research-and-teaching to get tenure, etc., that this is not their genuine strength. So, having considerable understanding of both research and teaching, they are uniquely qualified to try to administer things related to that. We rarely hire "professional managers" in academe, because we do not trust that they know what is going on here.






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                          Echoing the other answer: some people do see the opportunity to better their university. Also, in my experience, some people decide that, even though they did well-enough in research-and-teaching to get tenure, etc., that this is not their genuine strength. So, having considerable understanding of both research and teaching, they are uniquely qualified to try to administer things related to that. We rarely hire "professional managers" in academe, because we do not trust that they know what is going on here.







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                              Why do people want to be professor? They do less direct research (compared to post-docs or full time researchers) but instead they let other people execute their ideas. If you become head of department or a whole university, you can "steer" a lot more people but you become more indirect.



                              It is similar to why people climb the hierarchical ladder in industry. They loose contact with the real work but their thinking influences more people.






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                                Your first paragraph is completely wrong, IMO. Why do people become professors instead of postdocs? Because a professorship is a permanent position and people get tired of jumping around institutions and countries after some time. Why do people become professors rather than full time researchers? Because research-only positions are rare and very competitive. In fact, full time researchers have more time to manage big teams and write research proposals to get grants and thus a bigger team.
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                                @user2357: By full-time researcher I mean someone without a team below. These positions exists, e.g., in France or Germany in goverment -funded research labs which are outside of Universities. Examples are Inria or Frauenhofer. Even in your sense, professors are more indirect regarding research.
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                              • In France, you mean chargé de recherches abd directeurs de recherche? Then I'm sorry to say that you are wrong. A CR/DR is exactly like a professor, except they don't teach.
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                              Why do people want to be professor? They do less direct research (compared to post-docs or full time researchers) but instead they let other people execute their ideas. If you become head of department or a whole university, you can "steer" a lot more people but you become more indirect.



                              It is similar to why people climb the hierarchical ladder in industry. They loose contact with the real work but their thinking influences more people.






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                                Your first paragraph is completely wrong, IMO. Why do people become professors instead of postdocs? Because a professorship is a permanent position and people get tired of jumping around institutions and countries after some time. Why do people become professors rather than full time researchers? Because research-only positions are rare and very competitive. In fact, full time researchers have more time to manage big teams and write research proposals to get grants and thus a bigger team.
                                – user2357
                                Nov 8 at 13:37






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                                @user2357: By full-time researcher I mean someone without a team below. These positions exists, e.g., in France or Germany in goverment -funded research labs which are outside of Universities. Examples are Inria or Frauenhofer. Even in your sense, professors are more indirect regarding research.
                                – usr1234567
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                              • In France, you mean chargé de recherches abd directeurs de recherche? Then I'm sorry to say that you are wrong. A CR/DR is exactly like a professor, except they don't teach.
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                              Why do people want to be professor? They do less direct research (compared to post-docs or full time researchers) but instead they let other people execute their ideas. If you become head of department or a whole university, you can "steer" a lot more people but you become more indirect.



                              It is similar to why people climb the hierarchical ladder in industry. They loose contact with the real work but their thinking influences more people.






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                              Why do people want to be professor? They do less direct research (compared to post-docs or full time researchers) but instead they let other people execute their ideas. If you become head of department or a whole university, you can "steer" a lot more people but you become more indirect.



                              It is similar to why people climb the hierarchical ladder in industry. They loose contact with the real work but their thinking influences more people.







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                                Your first paragraph is completely wrong, IMO. Why do people become professors instead of postdocs? Because a professorship is a permanent position and people get tired of jumping around institutions and countries after some time. Why do people become professors rather than full time researchers? Because research-only positions are rare and very competitive. In fact, full time researchers have more time to manage big teams and write research proposals to get grants and thus a bigger team.
                                – user2357
                                Nov 8 at 13:37






                              • 1




                                @user2357: By full-time researcher I mean someone without a team below. These positions exists, e.g., in France or Germany in goverment -funded research labs which are outside of Universities. Examples are Inria or Frauenhofer. Even in your sense, professors are more indirect regarding research.
                                – usr1234567
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                              • In France, you mean chargé de recherches abd directeurs de recherche? Then I'm sorry to say that you are wrong. A CR/DR is exactly like a professor, except they don't teach.
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                                Nov 9 at 7:53














                              • 4




                                Your first paragraph is completely wrong, IMO. Why do people become professors instead of postdocs? Because a professorship is a permanent position and people get tired of jumping around institutions and countries after some time. Why do people become professors rather than full time researchers? Because research-only positions are rare and very competitive. In fact, full time researchers have more time to manage big teams and write research proposals to get grants and thus a bigger team.
                                – user2357
                                Nov 8 at 13:37






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                                @user2357: By full-time researcher I mean someone without a team below. These positions exists, e.g., in France or Germany in goverment -funded research labs which are outside of Universities. Examples are Inria or Frauenhofer. Even in your sense, professors are more indirect regarding research.
                                – usr1234567
                                Nov 8 at 22:59










                              • In France, you mean chargé de recherches abd directeurs de recherche? Then I'm sorry to say that you are wrong. A CR/DR is exactly like a professor, except they don't teach.
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                                Nov 9 at 7:53








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                              Your first paragraph is completely wrong, IMO. Why do people become professors instead of postdocs? Because a professorship is a permanent position and people get tired of jumping around institutions and countries after some time. Why do people become professors rather than full time researchers? Because research-only positions are rare and very competitive. In fact, full time researchers have more time to manage big teams and write research proposals to get grants and thus a bigger team.
                              – user2357
                              Nov 8 at 13:37




                              Your first paragraph is completely wrong, IMO. Why do people become professors instead of postdocs? Because a professorship is a permanent position and people get tired of jumping around institutions and countries after some time. Why do people become professors rather than full time researchers? Because research-only positions are rare and very competitive. In fact, full time researchers have more time to manage big teams and write research proposals to get grants and thus a bigger team.
                              – user2357
                              Nov 8 at 13:37




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                              @user2357: By full-time researcher I mean someone without a team below. These positions exists, e.g., in France or Germany in goverment -funded research labs which are outside of Universities. Examples are Inria or Frauenhofer. Even in your sense, professors are more indirect regarding research.
                              – usr1234567
                              Nov 8 at 22:59




                              @user2357: By full-time researcher I mean someone without a team below. These positions exists, e.g., in France or Germany in goverment -funded research labs which are outside of Universities. Examples are Inria or Frauenhofer. Even in your sense, professors are more indirect regarding research.
                              – usr1234567
                              Nov 8 at 22:59












                              In France, you mean chargé de recherches abd directeurs de recherche? Then I'm sorry to say that you are wrong. A CR/DR is exactly like a professor, except they don't teach.
                              – user2357
                              Nov 9 at 7:53




                              In France, you mean chargé de recherches abd directeurs de recherche? Then I'm sorry to say that you are wrong. A CR/DR is exactly like a professor, except they don't teach.
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                              A few more aspects of motivation I have not yet heard mentioned are:





                              • Salary. In many universities, senior administrative positions offer a salary increase over the (often uniform) salary grade of a professor. For most people this is a secondary motivation, and Professors' salaries are not that low to begin with, but it does carry some weight.


                              • Prestige. It makes many people feel more accomplished to have reached higher positions or ranks; to be more in the public eye; to speak for their departments or universities in various circumstances. Some might consider this vanity (and there are certainly vain people in such positions at times), but social recognition does motivate most people at least to some extent.


                              • Getting away from research. Paradoxical, isn't it? Well, some Professors are not as motivated as they used to be. Or - dislike the current fashions in their field. Or have just evolved as people and want to try something different in life, without quitting their job. An administrative position is a way of doing that instead of focusing mostly on your research.


                              Having said that - I agree with @RaghuParthasarathy's answer, that the primary motivation is hopefully the wish to actually do right by your institute or department.






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                                A few more aspects of motivation I have not yet heard mentioned are:





                                • Salary. In many universities, senior administrative positions offer a salary increase over the (often uniform) salary grade of a professor. For most people this is a secondary motivation, and Professors' salaries are not that low to begin with, but it does carry some weight.


                                • Prestige. It makes many people feel more accomplished to have reached higher positions or ranks; to be more in the public eye; to speak for their departments or universities in various circumstances. Some might consider this vanity (and there are certainly vain people in such positions at times), but social recognition does motivate most people at least to some extent.


                                • Getting away from research. Paradoxical, isn't it? Well, some Professors are not as motivated as they used to be. Or - dislike the current fashions in their field. Or have just evolved as people and want to try something different in life, without quitting their job. An administrative position is a way of doing that instead of focusing mostly on your research.


                                Having said that - I agree with @RaghuParthasarathy's answer, that the primary motivation is hopefully the wish to actually do right by your institute or department.






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                                  A few more aspects of motivation I have not yet heard mentioned are:





                                  • Salary. In many universities, senior administrative positions offer a salary increase over the (often uniform) salary grade of a professor. For most people this is a secondary motivation, and Professors' salaries are not that low to begin with, but it does carry some weight.


                                  • Prestige. It makes many people feel more accomplished to have reached higher positions or ranks; to be more in the public eye; to speak for their departments or universities in various circumstances. Some might consider this vanity (and there are certainly vain people in such positions at times), but social recognition does motivate most people at least to some extent.


                                  • Getting away from research. Paradoxical, isn't it? Well, some Professors are not as motivated as they used to be. Or - dislike the current fashions in their field. Or have just evolved as people and want to try something different in life, without quitting their job. An administrative position is a way of doing that instead of focusing mostly on your research.


                                  Having said that - I agree with @RaghuParthasarathy's answer, that the primary motivation is hopefully the wish to actually do right by your institute or department.






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                                  A few more aspects of motivation I have not yet heard mentioned are:





                                  • Salary. In many universities, senior administrative positions offer a salary increase over the (often uniform) salary grade of a professor. For most people this is a secondary motivation, and Professors' salaries are not that low to begin with, but it does carry some weight.


                                  • Prestige. It makes many people feel more accomplished to have reached higher positions or ranks; to be more in the public eye; to speak for their departments or universities in various circumstances. Some might consider this vanity (and there are certainly vain people in such positions at times), but social recognition does motivate most people at least to some extent.


                                  • Getting away from research. Paradoxical, isn't it? Well, some Professors are not as motivated as they used to be. Or - dislike the current fashions in their field. Or have just evolved as people and want to try something different in life, without quitting their job. An administrative position is a way of doing that instead of focusing mostly on your research.


                                  Having said that - I agree with @RaghuParthasarathy's answer, that the primary motivation is hopefully the wish to actually do right by your institute or department.







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                                      Here at the college I work for, our state retirement system (FRS, florida) administrative positions above a certain level accrue retirement pay at 3% per year vs. 2% per year for us peons. Additionally, retirement pay is based on the average of the highest 3 years of earnings from any FRS employer. Rather common for admin types to teach a few classes as adjunct or run for city/county political positions, or to teach overloads, etc. all as a way to crank that retirement paycheck up as high as you can get it.



                                      Our administration also pull faculty away from the classroom (we aren't a research institution) to work on special projects like our SACS accreditation, etc. though this is usually time limited (1-5 years) with a promise of returning to the classroom and no loss of tenure, etc.



                                      So from here at a "junior college" type place, it is about that retirement pay.






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                                        Here at the college I work for, our state retirement system (FRS, florida) administrative positions above a certain level accrue retirement pay at 3% per year vs. 2% per year for us peons. Additionally, retirement pay is based on the average of the highest 3 years of earnings from any FRS employer. Rather common for admin types to teach a few classes as adjunct or run for city/county political positions, or to teach overloads, etc. all as a way to crank that retirement paycheck up as high as you can get it.



                                        Our administration also pull faculty away from the classroom (we aren't a research institution) to work on special projects like our SACS accreditation, etc. though this is usually time limited (1-5 years) with a promise of returning to the classroom and no loss of tenure, etc.



                                        So from here at a "junior college" type place, it is about that retirement pay.






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                                          Here at the college I work for, our state retirement system (FRS, florida) administrative positions above a certain level accrue retirement pay at 3% per year vs. 2% per year for us peons. Additionally, retirement pay is based on the average of the highest 3 years of earnings from any FRS employer. Rather common for admin types to teach a few classes as adjunct or run for city/county political positions, or to teach overloads, etc. all as a way to crank that retirement paycheck up as high as you can get it.



                                          Our administration also pull faculty away from the classroom (we aren't a research institution) to work on special projects like our SACS accreditation, etc. though this is usually time limited (1-5 years) with a promise of returning to the classroom and no loss of tenure, etc.



                                          So from here at a "junior college" type place, it is about that retirement pay.






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                                          Here at the college I work for, our state retirement system (FRS, florida) administrative positions above a certain level accrue retirement pay at 3% per year vs. 2% per year for us peons. Additionally, retirement pay is based on the average of the highest 3 years of earnings from any FRS employer. Rather common for admin types to teach a few classes as adjunct or run for city/county political positions, or to teach overloads, etc. all as a way to crank that retirement paycheck up as high as you can get it.



                                          Our administration also pull faculty away from the classroom (we aren't a research institution) to work on special projects like our SACS accreditation, etc. though this is usually time limited (1-5 years) with a promise of returning to the classroom and no loss of tenure, etc.



                                          So from here at a "junior college" type place, it is about that retirement pay.







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                                              The difference between "administration" and "teaching" in a university is like the difference between the managerial and technical tracks in a corporation.



                                              The "average" university person probably wants to remain on the "technical" or "professor" track, but some people will prefer administrative duties, and a chance to exert executive power, either inside or outside the university.



                                              As a child, I didn't want to be a movie star, but I did want to be a "producer," which would have made me their boss. That was true even though I knew that the stars made more money.






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                                                The difference between "administration" and "teaching" in a university is like the difference between the managerial and technical tracks in a corporation.



                                                The "average" university person probably wants to remain on the "technical" or "professor" track, but some people will prefer administrative duties, and a chance to exert executive power, either inside or outside the university.



                                                As a child, I didn't want to be a movie star, but I did want to be a "producer," which would have made me their boss. That was true even though I knew that the stars made more money.






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                                                  The difference between "administration" and "teaching" in a university is like the difference between the managerial and technical tracks in a corporation.



                                                  The "average" university person probably wants to remain on the "technical" or "professor" track, but some people will prefer administrative duties, and a chance to exert executive power, either inside or outside the university.



                                                  As a child, I didn't want to be a movie star, but I did want to be a "producer," which would have made me their boss. That was true even though I knew that the stars made more money.






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                                                  The difference between "administration" and "teaching" in a university is like the difference between the managerial and technical tracks in a corporation.



                                                  The "average" university person probably wants to remain on the "technical" or "professor" track, but some people will prefer administrative duties, and a chance to exert executive power, either inside or outside the university.



                                                  As a child, I didn't want to be a movie star, but I did want to be a "producer," which would have made me their boss. That was true even though I knew that the stars made more money.







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                                                      In systems where internal appointment of academic management still exists some staff members who are collegial or union will put themselves forward in order to prevent the filling of the role by an unknown external, an uncollegial peer, a non-union worker, or a yellow dog or scab.



                                                      To the extent that the academic management role has some freedom of action they may be able to protect their unit from higher levels of management for a period of time.



                                                      This perspective assumes a higher level of proletarianisation, class conflict and class consciousness amongst academics in a unit; but, I have seen the case in the Australian system. Sometime everyone else steps backwards faster when colleagues ask for a volunteer.






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                                                        In systems where internal appointment of academic management still exists some staff members who are collegial or union will put themselves forward in order to prevent the filling of the role by an unknown external, an uncollegial peer, a non-union worker, or a yellow dog or scab.



                                                        To the extent that the academic management role has some freedom of action they may be able to protect their unit from higher levels of management for a period of time.



                                                        This perspective assumes a higher level of proletarianisation, class conflict and class consciousness amongst academics in a unit; but, I have seen the case in the Australian system. Sometime everyone else steps backwards faster when colleagues ask for a volunteer.






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                                                          In systems where internal appointment of academic management still exists some staff members who are collegial or union will put themselves forward in order to prevent the filling of the role by an unknown external, an uncollegial peer, a non-union worker, or a yellow dog or scab.



                                                          To the extent that the academic management role has some freedom of action they may be able to protect their unit from higher levels of management for a period of time.



                                                          This perspective assumes a higher level of proletarianisation, class conflict and class consciousness amongst academics in a unit; but, I have seen the case in the Australian system. Sometime everyone else steps backwards faster when colleagues ask for a volunteer.






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                                                          In systems where internal appointment of academic management still exists some staff members who are collegial or union will put themselves forward in order to prevent the filling of the role by an unknown external, an uncollegial peer, a non-union worker, or a yellow dog or scab.



                                                          To the extent that the academic management role has some freedom of action they may be able to protect their unit from higher levels of management for a period of time.



                                                          This perspective assumes a higher level of proletarianisation, class conflict and class consciousness amongst academics in a unit; but, I have seen the case in the Australian system. Sometime everyone else steps backwards faster when colleagues ask for a volunteer.







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