What does “Murió de un calambre” mean?
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I just finished Cuentos Alegres, a book assigned to me in Spanish class forty years ago. The book itself may be over 100 years old in its original printing.
In the last story, a Sherlock Holmes story, the phrase "murió de un calambre" was used. A literal translation would be "died of a cramp". It's also what Google translate tells me. Does it mean died from a seizure? It this an old usage?
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I just finished Cuentos Alegres, a book assigned to me in Spanish class forty years ago. The book itself may be over 100 years old in its original printing.
In the last story, a Sherlock Holmes story, the phrase "murió de un calambre" was used. A literal translation would be "died of a cramp". It's also what Google translate tells me. Does it mean died from a seizure? It this an old usage?
modismos expresiones significado
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I just finished Cuentos Alegres, a book assigned to me in Spanish class forty years ago. The book itself may be over 100 years old in its original printing.
In the last story, a Sherlock Holmes story, the phrase "murió de un calambre" was used. A literal translation would be "died of a cramp". It's also what Google translate tells me. Does it mean died from a seizure? It this an old usage?
modismos expresiones significado
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I just finished Cuentos Alegres, a book assigned to me in Spanish class forty years ago. The book itself may be over 100 years old in its original printing.
In the last story, a Sherlock Holmes story, the phrase "murió de un calambre" was used. A literal translation would be "died of a cramp". It's also what Google translate tells me. Does it mean died from a seizure? It this an old usage?
modismos expresiones significado
modismos expresiones significado
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Let's see the definition for calambre as it was a hundred years ago. This is written in the Royal Spanish Academy's dictionary from 1914:
Calambre. (Del ant. nórdico klampi, laña, corchete; en al. krampf, calambre.) m. Contracción espamódica, involuntaria, dolorosa y poco durable de ciertos músculos, particularmente de los de la pantorrilla.
No trace of the electrical shock-related meaning, neither in this dictionary nor in other dictionaries from the same time. That meaning was added to the dictionary in 1992. In fact, a hundred years ago the term to refer to an electrical shoch was descarga eléctrica:
Tona sufrió una sacudida de arriba abajo, como si la hubieran aplicado una descarga eléctrica [...].
José María de Pereda, "Peñas arriba", 1895 (Spain).
In the aforementioned dictionary you can read:
Descarga. Acción y efecto de descargar.
Descargar. 5 Anular la tensión eléctrica de un cuerpo haciendo saltar la chispa o por otro medio.
So it seems that the person died indeed from a cramp. And yes, the word calambre dates from very old, it can be found in the Spanish-Latin dictionary by Antonio de Nebrija, written in 1495.
Reading this text from circa 1535 it seems that people could indeed die from a cramp:
"Pereçosa,
vellaca, puerca, golosa,
mala hembra, desoluta;
di, ¿no acabas, çancajosa?
¡Ven aquí, borracha puta!
Dormillona,
¿de dónde vienes, soplona?
¡Mueras de mala calambre!"
Anónimo, "Auto de Clarindo", c1535 (Spain).
The last sentence means "may you die from a bad cramp". By the way, it seems that Spanish calambre and English cramp have the same origin.
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Calambre can have many meanings. See the DRAE's entry for "Calambre". One is actually a cramp
- m. Contracción muscular involuntaria, dolorosa y de poca duración.
(same for the third entry, a "espasmo de ciertos grupos de músculos") But it can also be an electric shock
- m. Sacudida producida por una descarga eléctrica de baja intensidad.
It seems difficult, but not impossible, that a person would die from either of these, specially in a work of fiction. Without any context, after hearing
murió de un calambre
I could not tell if it was cramp or an electric shock.
answered Nov 7 at 4:00
Diego♦
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it's the cramp produced by the shock, not the shock itself.
– ths
Nov 7 at 17:26
@ths No. it's an electric shock in the terms of a jolt. That might shake the part of the body that received the electric shock. That area might get cramped, numbed or in pain, but I believe the definition does not imply "the cramp you get after or due to the shock". It means "the jolt of an electric shock".
– Diego♦
Nov 7 at 17:38
in any case it seems pretty clear that it means the physiological reaction to the shock.
– ths
Nov 7 at 18:28
But when you translate to English, you'll want to convey "he died from the outcome of muscular cramp" or "he died from the outcome of a low intensity electric shock". "Died of a cramp" although technically accurate for both, may not be the best translation for "murió de un calambre", depending on the context (which is unknown). "Died of a cramp" could be misleading if the originator was an electric shock.
– Diego♦
Nov 7 at 19:06
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Let's see the definition for calambre as it was a hundred years ago. This is written in the Royal Spanish Academy's dictionary from 1914:
Calambre. (Del ant. nórdico klampi, laña, corchete; en al. krampf, calambre.) m. Contracción espamódica, involuntaria, dolorosa y poco durable de ciertos músculos, particularmente de los de la pantorrilla.
No trace of the electrical shock-related meaning, neither in this dictionary nor in other dictionaries from the same time. That meaning was added to the dictionary in 1992. In fact, a hundred years ago the term to refer to an electrical shoch was descarga eléctrica:
Tona sufrió una sacudida de arriba abajo, como si la hubieran aplicado una descarga eléctrica [...].
José María de Pereda, "Peñas arriba", 1895 (Spain).
In the aforementioned dictionary you can read:
Descarga. Acción y efecto de descargar.
Descargar. 5 Anular la tensión eléctrica de un cuerpo haciendo saltar la chispa o por otro medio.
So it seems that the person died indeed from a cramp. And yes, the word calambre dates from very old, it can be found in the Spanish-Latin dictionary by Antonio de Nebrija, written in 1495.
Reading this text from circa 1535 it seems that people could indeed die from a cramp:
"Pereçosa,
vellaca, puerca, golosa,
mala hembra, desoluta;
di, ¿no acabas, çancajosa?
¡Ven aquí, borracha puta!
Dormillona,
¿de dónde vienes, soplona?
¡Mueras de mala calambre!"
Anónimo, "Auto de Clarindo", c1535 (Spain).
The last sentence means "may you die from a bad cramp". By the way, it seems that Spanish calambre and English cramp have the same origin.
answered Nov 7 at 9:34
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Let's see the definition for calambre as it was a hundred years ago. This is written in the Royal Spanish Academy's dictionary from 1914:
Calambre. (Del ant. nórdico klampi, laña, corchete; en al. krampf, calambre.) m. Contracción espamódica, involuntaria, dolorosa y poco durable de ciertos músculos, particularmente de los de la pantorrilla.
No trace of the electrical shock-related meaning, neither in this dictionary nor in other dictionaries from the same time. That meaning was added to the dictionary in 1992. In fact, a hundred years ago the term to refer to an electrical shoch was descarga eléctrica:
Tona sufrió una sacudida de arriba abajo, como si la hubieran aplicado una descarga eléctrica [...].
José María de Pereda, "Peñas arriba", 1895 (Spain).
In the aforementioned dictionary you can read:
Descarga. Acción y efecto de descargar.
Descargar. 5 Anular la tensión eléctrica de un cuerpo haciendo saltar la chispa o por otro medio.
So it seems that the person died indeed from a cramp. And yes, the word calambre dates from very old, it can be found in the Spanish-Latin dictionary by Antonio de Nebrija, written in 1495.
Reading this text from circa 1535 it seems that people could indeed die from a cramp:
"Pereçosa,
vellaca, puerca, golosa,
mala hembra, desoluta;
di, ¿no acabas, çancajosa?
¡Ven aquí, borracha puta!
Dormillona,
¿de dónde vienes, soplona?
¡Mueras de mala calambre!"
Anónimo, "Auto de Clarindo", c1535 (Spain).
The last sentence means "may you die from a bad cramp". By the way, it seems that Spanish calambre and English cramp have the same origin.
answered Nov 7 at 9:34
Charlie
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up vote
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Let's see the definition for calambre as it was a hundred years ago. This is written in the Royal Spanish Academy's dictionary from 1914:
Calambre. (Del ant. nórdico klampi, laña, corchete; en al. krampf, calambre.) m. Contracción espamódica, involuntaria, dolorosa y poco durable de ciertos músculos, particularmente de los de la pantorrilla.
No trace of the electrical shock-related meaning, neither in this dictionary nor in other dictionaries from the same time. That meaning was added to the dictionary in 1992. In fact, a hundred years ago the term to refer to an electrical shoch was descarga eléctrica:
Tona sufrió una sacudida de arriba abajo, como si la hubieran aplicado una descarga eléctrica [...].
José María de Pereda, "Peñas arriba", 1895 (Spain).
In the aforementioned dictionary you can read:
Descarga. Acción y efecto de descargar.
Descargar. 5 Anular la tensión eléctrica de un cuerpo haciendo saltar la chispa o por otro medio.
So it seems that the person died indeed from a cramp. And yes, the word calambre dates from very old, it can be found in the Spanish-Latin dictionary by Antonio de Nebrija, written in 1495.
Reading this text from circa 1535 it seems that people could indeed die from a cramp:
"Pereçosa,
vellaca, puerca, golosa,
mala hembra, desoluta;
di, ¿no acabas, çancajosa?
¡Ven aquí, borracha puta!
Dormillona,
¿de dónde vienes, soplona?
¡Mueras de mala calambre!"
Anónimo, "Auto de Clarindo", c1535 (Spain).
The last sentence means "may you die from a bad cramp". By the way, it seems that Spanish calambre and English cramp have the same origin.
answered Nov 7 at 9:34
Charlie
43.2k1071190
Let's see the definition for calambre as it was a hundred years ago. This is written in the Royal Spanish Academy's dictionary from 1914:
Calambre. (Del ant. nórdico klampi, laña, corchete; en al. krampf, calambre.) m. Contracción espamódica, involuntaria, dolorosa y poco durable de ciertos músculos, particularmente de los de la pantorrilla.
No trace of the electrical shock-related meaning, neither in this dictionary nor in other dictionaries from the same time. That meaning was added to the dictionary in 1992. In fact, a hundred years ago the term to refer to an electrical shoch was descarga eléctrica:
Tona sufrió una sacudida de arriba abajo, como si la hubieran aplicado una descarga eléctrica [...].
José María de Pereda, "Peñas arriba", 1895 (Spain).
In the aforementioned dictionary you can read:
Descarga. Acción y efecto de descargar.
Descargar. 5 Anular la tensión eléctrica de un cuerpo haciendo saltar la chispa o por otro medio.
So it seems that the person died indeed from a cramp. And yes, the word calambre dates from very old, it can be found in the Spanish-Latin dictionary by Antonio de Nebrija, written in 1495.
Reading this text from circa 1535 it seems that people could indeed die from a cramp:
"Pereçosa,
vellaca, puerca, golosa,
mala hembra, desoluta;
di, ¿no acabas, çancajosa?
¡Ven aquí, borracha puta!
Dormillona,
¿de dónde vienes, soplona?
¡Mueras de mala calambre!"
Anónimo, "Auto de Clarindo", c1535 (Spain).
The last sentence means "may you die from a bad cramp". By the way, it seems that Spanish calambre and English cramp have the same origin.
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Calambre can have many meanings. See the DRAE's entry for "Calambre". One is actually a cramp
- m. Contracción muscular involuntaria, dolorosa y de poca duración.
(same for the third entry, a "espasmo de ciertos grupos de músculos") But it can also be an electric shock
- m. Sacudida producida por una descarga eléctrica de baja intensidad.
It seems difficult, but not impossible, that a person would die from either of these, specially in a work of fiction. Without any context, after hearing
murió de un calambre
I could not tell if it was cramp or an electric shock.
answered Nov 7 at 4:00
Diego♦
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it's the cramp produced by the shock, not the shock itself.
– ths
Nov 7 at 17:26
@ths No. it's an electric shock in the terms of a jolt. That might shake the part of the body that received the electric shock. That area might get cramped, numbed or in pain, but I believe the definition does not imply "the cramp you get after or due to the shock". It means "the jolt of an electric shock".
– Diego♦
Nov 7 at 17:38
in any case it seems pretty clear that it means the physiological reaction to the shock.
– ths
Nov 7 at 18:28
But when you translate to English, you'll want to convey "he died from the outcome of muscular cramp" or "he died from the outcome of a low intensity electric shock". "Died of a cramp" although technically accurate for both, may not be the best translation for "murió de un calambre", depending on the context (which is unknown). "Died of a cramp" could be misleading if the originator was an electric shock.
– Diego♦
Nov 7 at 19:06
add a comment |
up vote
3
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Calambre can have many meanings. See the DRAE's entry for "Calambre". One is actually a cramp
- m. Contracción muscular involuntaria, dolorosa y de poca duración.
(same for the third entry, a "espasmo de ciertos grupos de músculos") But it can also be an electric shock
- m. Sacudida producida por una descarga eléctrica de baja intensidad.
It seems difficult, but not impossible, that a person would die from either of these, specially in a work of fiction. Without any context, after hearing
murió de un calambre
I could not tell if it was cramp or an electric shock.
answered Nov 7 at 4:00
Diego♦
34k1063122
it's the cramp produced by the shock, not the shock itself.
– ths
Nov 7 at 17:26
@ths No. it's an electric shock in the terms of a jolt. That might shake the part of the body that received the electric shock. That area might get cramped, numbed or in pain, but I believe the definition does not imply "the cramp you get after or due to the shock". It means "the jolt of an electric shock".
– Diego♦
Nov 7 at 17:38
in any case it seems pretty clear that it means the physiological reaction to the shock.
– ths
Nov 7 at 18:28
But when you translate to English, you'll want to convey "he died from the outcome of muscular cramp" or "he died from the outcome of a low intensity electric shock". "Died of a cramp" although technically accurate for both, may not be the best translation for "murió de un calambre", depending on the context (which is unknown). "Died of a cramp" could be misleading if the originator was an electric shock.
– Diego♦
Nov 7 at 19:06
add a comment |
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up vote
3
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Calambre can have many meanings. See the DRAE's entry for "Calambre". One is actually a cramp
- m. Contracción muscular involuntaria, dolorosa y de poca duración.
(same for the third entry, a "espasmo de ciertos grupos de músculos") But it can also be an electric shock
- m. Sacudida producida por una descarga eléctrica de baja intensidad.
It seems difficult, but not impossible, that a person would die from either of these, specially in a work of fiction. Without any context, after hearing
murió de un calambre
I could not tell if it was cramp or an electric shock.
answered Nov 7 at 4:00
Diego♦
34k1063122
Calambre can have many meanings. See the DRAE's entry for "Calambre". One is actually a cramp
- m. Contracción muscular involuntaria, dolorosa y de poca duración.
(same for the third entry, a "espasmo de ciertos grupos de músculos") But it can also be an electric shock
- m. Sacudida producida por una descarga eléctrica de baja intensidad.
It seems difficult, but not impossible, that a person would die from either of these, specially in a work of fiction. Without any context, after hearing
murió de un calambre
I could not tell if it was cramp or an electric shock.
answered Nov 7 at 4:00
Diego♦
34k1063122
answered Nov 7 at 4:00
Diego♦
34k1063122
answered Nov 7 at 4:00
Diego♦
34k1063122
answered Nov 7 at 4:00
Diego♦
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it's the cramp produced by the shock, not the shock itself.
– ths
Nov 7 at 17:26
@ths No. it's an electric shock in the terms of a jolt. That might shake the part of the body that received the electric shock. That area might get cramped, numbed or in pain, but I believe the definition does not imply "the cramp you get after or due to the shock". It means "the jolt of an electric shock".
– Diego♦
Nov 7 at 17:38
in any case it seems pretty clear that it means the physiological reaction to the shock.
– ths
Nov 7 at 18:28
But when you translate to English, you'll want to convey "he died from the outcome of muscular cramp" or "he died from the outcome of a low intensity electric shock". "Died of a cramp" although technically accurate for both, may not be the best translation for "murió de un calambre", depending on the context (which is unknown). "Died of a cramp" could be misleading if the originator was an electric shock.
– Diego♦
Nov 7 at 19:06
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it's the cramp produced by the shock, not the shock itself.
– ths
Nov 7 at 17:26
@ths No. it's an electric shock in the terms of a jolt. That might shake the part of the body that received the electric shock. That area might get cramped, numbed or in pain, but I believe the definition does not imply "the cramp you get after or due to the shock". It means "the jolt of an electric shock".
– Diego♦
Nov 7 at 17:38
in any case it seems pretty clear that it means the physiological reaction to the shock.
– ths
Nov 7 at 18:28
But when you translate to English, you'll want to convey "he died from the outcome of muscular cramp" or "he died from the outcome of a low intensity electric shock". "Died of a cramp" although technically accurate for both, may not be the best translation for "murió de un calambre", depending on the context (which is unknown). "Died of a cramp" could be misleading if the originator was an electric shock.
– Diego♦
Nov 7 at 19:06
it's the cramp produced by the shock, not the shock itself.
– ths
Nov 7 at 17:26
it's the cramp produced by the shock, not the shock itself.
– ths
Nov 7 at 17:26
@ths No. it's an electric shock in the terms of a jolt. That might shake the part of the body that received the electric shock. That area might get cramped, numbed or in pain, but I believe the definition does not imply "the cramp you get after or due to the shock". It means "the jolt of an electric shock".
– Diego♦
Nov 7 at 17:38
@ths No. it's an electric shock in the terms of a jolt. That might shake the part of the body that received the electric shock. That area might get cramped, numbed or in pain, but I believe the definition does not imply "the cramp you get after or due to the shock". It means "the jolt of an electric shock".
– Diego♦
Nov 7 at 17:38
in any case it seems pretty clear that it means the physiological reaction to the shock.
– ths
Nov 7 at 18:28
in any case it seems pretty clear that it means the physiological reaction to the shock.
– ths
Nov 7 at 18:28
But when you translate to English, you'll want to convey "he died from the outcome of muscular cramp" or "he died from the outcome of a low intensity electric shock". "Died of a cramp" although technically accurate for both, may not be the best translation for "murió de un calambre", depending on the context (which is unknown). "Died of a cramp" could be misleading if the originator was an electric shock.
– Diego♦
Nov 7 at 19:06
But when you translate to English, you'll want to convey "he died from the outcome of muscular cramp" or "he died from the outcome of a low intensity electric shock". "Died of a cramp" although technically accurate for both, may not be the best translation for "murió de un calambre", depending on the context (which is unknown). "Died of a cramp" could be misleading if the originator was an electric shock.
– Diego♦
Nov 7 at 19:06
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