Is Google App Engine tmp folder isolated per instance? [closed]












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There's very little information about the /tmp/ folder which App Engine can use to write files. https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/standard/java/runtime-java8#Java_The_sandbox



The main question is if this is isolated per instance? And if an instance saves a file, starts a push queue, will the push queue be ran by the same instance and able to read the file?



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    There's very little information about the /tmp/ folder which App Engine can use to write files. https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/standard/java/runtime-java8#Java_The_sandbox



    The main question is if this is isolated per instance? And if an instance saves a file, starts a push queue, will the push queue be ran by the same instance and able to read the file?



    Thanks










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      There's very little information about the /tmp/ folder which App Engine can use to write files. https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/standard/java/runtime-java8#Java_The_sandbox



      The main question is if this is isolated per instance? And if an instance saves a file, starts a push queue, will the push queue be ran by the same instance and able to read the file?



      Thanks










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      There's very little information about the /tmp/ folder which App Engine can use to write files. https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/standard/java/runtime-java8#Java_The_sandbox



      The main question is if this is isolated per instance? And if an instance saves a file, starts a push queue, will the push queue be ran by the same instance and able to read the file?



      Thanks







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          The /tmp directory actually exists in memory, so it is local to each GAE instance. From the doc you quoted:




          Files in /tmp will consume the memory allocated to your instance.




          Typically the execution of a push queue task is not guaranteed to happen on the same instance that enqueued the task.



          This guarantee can only exist in a very specific, rather not typical case: you use manual scaling with exactly one instance running and that instance both enqueues the task and (later) processes it.






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          • Can confirm, when logging instance id (ModulesServiceFactory.getModulesService().getCurrentInstanceId()) there sometimes a different instance for wrtiting file at request and reading file in push queue. But this only happens when there's a large file and at App Engine, not for smaller files or locally. Seems that first instance is busy writing file and a second instance is starting the push queue at the same time.

            – Carl Emmoth
            Nov 20 '18 at 14:14






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            You can encounter much more often the case if you have multiple instances running or if your tasks are delayed/deferred long enough for the enqueuing instance to disappear

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          The /tmp directory actually exists in memory, so it is local to each GAE instance. From the doc you quoted:




          Files in /tmp will consume the memory allocated to your instance.




          Typically the execution of a push queue task is not guaranteed to happen on the same instance that enqueued the task.



          This guarantee can only exist in a very specific, rather not typical case: you use manual scaling with exactly one instance running and that instance both enqueues the task and (later) processes it.






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          • Can confirm, when logging instance id (ModulesServiceFactory.getModulesService().getCurrentInstanceId()) there sometimes a different instance for wrtiting file at request and reading file in push queue. But this only happens when there's a large file and at App Engine, not for smaller files or locally. Seems that first instance is busy writing file and a second instance is starting the push queue at the same time.

            – Carl Emmoth
            Nov 20 '18 at 14:14






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            You can encounter much more often the case if you have multiple instances running or if your tasks are delayed/deferred long enough for the enqueuing instance to disappear

            – Dan Cornilescu
            Nov 20 '18 at 15:15


















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          The /tmp directory actually exists in memory, so it is local to each GAE instance. From the doc you quoted:




          Files in /tmp will consume the memory allocated to your instance.




          Typically the execution of a push queue task is not guaranteed to happen on the same instance that enqueued the task.



          This guarantee can only exist in a very specific, rather not typical case: you use manual scaling with exactly one instance running and that instance both enqueues the task and (later) processes it.






          share|improve this answer
























          • Can confirm, when logging instance id (ModulesServiceFactory.getModulesService().getCurrentInstanceId()) there sometimes a different instance for wrtiting file at request and reading file in push queue. But this only happens when there's a large file and at App Engine, not for smaller files or locally. Seems that first instance is busy writing file and a second instance is starting the push queue at the same time.

            – Carl Emmoth
            Nov 20 '18 at 14:14






          • 1





            You can encounter much more often the case if you have multiple instances running or if your tasks are delayed/deferred long enough for the enqueuing instance to disappear

            – Dan Cornilescu
            Nov 20 '18 at 15:15
















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          The /tmp directory actually exists in memory, so it is local to each GAE instance. From the doc you quoted:




          Files in /tmp will consume the memory allocated to your instance.




          Typically the execution of a push queue task is not guaranteed to happen on the same instance that enqueued the task.



          This guarantee can only exist in a very specific, rather not typical case: you use manual scaling with exactly one instance running and that instance both enqueues the task and (later) processes it.






          share|improve this answer













          The /tmp directory actually exists in memory, so it is local to each GAE instance. From the doc you quoted:




          Files in /tmp will consume the memory allocated to your instance.




          Typically the execution of a push queue task is not guaranteed to happen on the same instance that enqueued the task.



          This guarantee can only exist in a very specific, rather not typical case: you use manual scaling with exactly one instance running and that instance both enqueues the task and (later) processes it.







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          answered Nov 19 '18 at 14:23









          Dan CornilescuDan Cornilescu

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          • Can confirm, when logging instance id (ModulesServiceFactory.getModulesService().getCurrentInstanceId()) there sometimes a different instance for wrtiting file at request and reading file in push queue. But this only happens when there's a large file and at App Engine, not for smaller files or locally. Seems that first instance is busy writing file and a second instance is starting the push queue at the same time.

            – Carl Emmoth
            Nov 20 '18 at 14:14






          • 1





            You can encounter much more often the case if you have multiple instances running or if your tasks are delayed/deferred long enough for the enqueuing instance to disappear

            – Dan Cornilescu
            Nov 20 '18 at 15:15





















          • Can confirm, when logging instance id (ModulesServiceFactory.getModulesService().getCurrentInstanceId()) there sometimes a different instance for wrtiting file at request and reading file in push queue. But this only happens when there's a large file and at App Engine, not for smaller files or locally. Seems that first instance is busy writing file and a second instance is starting the push queue at the same time.

            – Carl Emmoth
            Nov 20 '18 at 14:14






          • 1





            You can encounter much more often the case if you have multiple instances running or if your tasks are delayed/deferred long enough for the enqueuing instance to disappear

            – Dan Cornilescu
            Nov 20 '18 at 15:15



















          Can confirm, when logging instance id (ModulesServiceFactory.getModulesService().getCurrentInstanceId()) there sometimes a different instance for wrtiting file at request and reading file in push queue. But this only happens when there's a large file and at App Engine, not for smaller files or locally. Seems that first instance is busy writing file and a second instance is starting the push queue at the same time.

          – Carl Emmoth
          Nov 20 '18 at 14:14





          Can confirm, when logging instance id (ModulesServiceFactory.getModulesService().getCurrentInstanceId()) there sometimes a different instance for wrtiting file at request and reading file in push queue. But this only happens when there's a large file and at App Engine, not for smaller files or locally. Seems that first instance is busy writing file and a second instance is starting the push queue at the same time.

          – Carl Emmoth
          Nov 20 '18 at 14:14




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          1





          You can encounter much more often the case if you have multiple instances running or if your tasks are delayed/deferred long enough for the enqueuing instance to disappear

          – Dan Cornilescu
          Nov 20 '18 at 15:15







          You can encounter much more often the case if you have multiple instances running or if your tasks are delayed/deferred long enough for the enqueuing instance to disappear

          – Dan Cornilescu
          Nov 20 '18 at 15:15







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