Exploit Matlab copy-on-write by ensuring function arguments are read-only?





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Background



I'm planning to create a large number of Matlab table objects once, so that I can quickly refer to their contents repeatedly. My understanding is that each table variable/column is treated in copy-on-write manner. That is, if a table column is not modified by a function, then a new copy is not created.



From what I recall of C++ as of 1.5 decades ago, I could ensure that the code for a function does not modify its argument's data by using constant-correctness formalism.



The specific question



I am not using C++ in these days, but I would like to achieve a similar effect of ensuring that the code for my Matlab function doesn't change the data for selected arguments, either inadvertently or otherwise. Does anyone know of a nonburensome way to do this, or just as importantly, whether this is an unrealistic expectation?



I am using R2015b.



P.S. I've web searched and came across various relevant articles, e.g.:



http://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/answers/359410-is-it-possible-to-avoid-copy-on-write-behavior-in-functions-yet



http://blogs.mathworks.com/loren/2007/03/22/in-place-operations-on-data
(which I need clarification on to fully understand, but it isn't my priority just now)



However, I don't believe that I am prematurely optimizing. I know that I don't want to modify the tables. I just need a way to enforce that without having to go through contortions like creating a wrapper class.



I've posted this at:
* Stack Overflow
* Google groups










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  • Related: stackoverflow.com/questions/1773850/constants-in-matlab

    – Cris Luengo
    Nov 25 '18 at 2:45











  • I'm not seeking a way to define constants. Just a way to ensure that a certain function isn't coded in a way to accidentally changes the data for an argument.

    – user36800
    Nov 25 '18 at 3:02


















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Background



I'm planning to create a large number of Matlab table objects once, so that I can quickly refer to their contents repeatedly. My understanding is that each table variable/column is treated in copy-on-write manner. That is, if a table column is not modified by a function, then a new copy is not created.



From what I recall of C++ as of 1.5 decades ago, I could ensure that the code for a function does not modify its argument's data by using constant-correctness formalism.



The specific question



I am not using C++ in these days, but I would like to achieve a similar effect of ensuring that the code for my Matlab function doesn't change the data for selected arguments, either inadvertently or otherwise. Does anyone know of a nonburensome way to do this, or just as importantly, whether this is an unrealistic expectation?



I am using R2015b.



P.S. I've web searched and came across various relevant articles, e.g.:



http://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/answers/359410-is-it-possible-to-avoid-copy-on-write-behavior-in-functions-yet



http://blogs.mathworks.com/loren/2007/03/22/in-place-operations-on-data
(which I need clarification on to fully understand, but it isn't my priority just now)



However, I don't believe that I am prematurely optimizing. I know that I don't want to modify the tables. I just need a way to enforce that without having to go through contortions like creating a wrapper class.



I've posted this at:
* Stack Overflow
* Google groups










share|improve this question

























  • Related: stackoverflow.com/questions/1773850/constants-in-matlab

    – Cris Luengo
    Nov 25 '18 at 2:45











  • I'm not seeking a way to define constants. Just a way to ensure that a certain function isn't coded in a way to accidentally changes the data for an argument.

    – user36800
    Nov 25 '18 at 3:02














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Background



I'm planning to create a large number of Matlab table objects once, so that I can quickly refer to their contents repeatedly. My understanding is that each table variable/column is treated in copy-on-write manner. That is, if a table column is not modified by a function, then a new copy is not created.



From what I recall of C++ as of 1.5 decades ago, I could ensure that the code for a function does not modify its argument's data by using constant-correctness formalism.



The specific question



I am not using C++ in these days, but I would like to achieve a similar effect of ensuring that the code for my Matlab function doesn't change the data for selected arguments, either inadvertently or otherwise. Does anyone know of a nonburensome way to do this, or just as importantly, whether this is an unrealistic expectation?



I am using R2015b.



P.S. I've web searched and came across various relevant articles, e.g.:



http://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/answers/359410-is-it-possible-to-avoid-copy-on-write-behavior-in-functions-yet



http://blogs.mathworks.com/loren/2007/03/22/in-place-operations-on-data
(which I need clarification on to fully understand, but it isn't my priority just now)



However, I don't believe that I am prematurely optimizing. I know that I don't want to modify the tables. I just need a way to enforce that without having to go through contortions like creating a wrapper class.



I've posted this at:
* Stack Overflow
* Google groups










share|improve this question
















Background



I'm planning to create a large number of Matlab table objects once, so that I can quickly refer to their contents repeatedly. My understanding is that each table variable/column is treated in copy-on-write manner. That is, if a table column is not modified by a function, then a new copy is not created.



From what I recall of C++ as of 1.5 decades ago, I could ensure that the code for a function does not modify its argument's data by using constant-correctness formalism.



The specific question



I am not using C++ in these days, but I would like to achieve a similar effect of ensuring that the code for my Matlab function doesn't change the data for selected arguments, either inadvertently or otherwise. Does anyone know of a nonburensome way to do this, or just as importantly, whether this is an unrealistic expectation?



I am using R2015b.



P.S. I've web searched and came across various relevant articles, e.g.:



http://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/answers/359410-is-it-possible-to-avoid-copy-on-write-behavior-in-functions-yet



http://blogs.mathworks.com/loren/2007/03/22/in-place-operations-on-data
(which I need clarification on to fully understand, but it isn't my priority just now)



However, I don't believe that I am prematurely optimizing. I know that I don't want to modify the tables. I just need a way to enforce that without having to go through contortions like creating a wrapper class.



I've posted this at:
* Stack Overflow
* Google groups







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  • Related: stackoverflow.com/questions/1773850/constants-in-matlab

    – Cris Luengo
    Nov 25 '18 at 2:45











  • I'm not seeking a way to define constants. Just a way to ensure that a certain function isn't coded in a way to accidentally changes the data for an argument.

    – user36800
    Nov 25 '18 at 3:02



















  • Related: stackoverflow.com/questions/1773850/constants-in-matlab

    – Cris Luengo
    Nov 25 '18 at 2:45











  • I'm not seeking a way to define constants. Just a way to ensure that a certain function isn't coded in a way to accidentally changes the data for an argument.

    – user36800
    Nov 25 '18 at 3:02

















Related: stackoverflow.com/questions/1773850/constants-in-matlab

– Cris Luengo
Nov 25 '18 at 2:45





Related: stackoverflow.com/questions/1773850/constants-in-matlab

– Cris Luengo
Nov 25 '18 at 2:45













I'm not seeking a way to define constants. Just a way to ensure that a certain function isn't coded in a way to accidentally changes the data for an argument.

– user36800
Nov 25 '18 at 3:02





I'm not seeking a way to define constants. Just a way to ensure that a certain function isn't coded in a way to accidentally changes the data for an argument.

– user36800
Nov 25 '18 at 3:02












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There is no way of making variables constants in MATLAB, except by creating a class with a constant (and static?) member variable. But even then you can do:



t = const_table_class.table;
t(1,1) = 0; % Created and modified a copy!


The reason that a function does not need to mark its inputs as const is because arguments are always passed by value. So a local modification does not modify data in the caller’s workspace. const is something that just doesn’t exist in the MATLAB language.



On the other hand, you can be certain that your data will not be modified by any of the functions you call. Thus, as long as the function that owns the tables does not modify them, they will remain constant. Any function you pass these tables to, if they attempt to modify them, they will create a local copy to be modified. This is only locally a problem. The memory used up by this copy will be freed upon function exit. It will be a bug in the function, but not affect code outside this function.






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  • I was afraid that would be the answer. I was hoping that there was a way to have an error or warning generated if designated argument to a function was modified. It's not for the situation in which the modification is intentional. It's to catch the cases in which I (as the coder) really wanted to not modify the data for an argument, but made a mistake in to code so that it modifies the data. That's one of the main benefits of constant correctness in C++. It tells the compiler to flag such situations. Ah well. Thanks! I now the pitfall that I have to be extra careful about.

    – user36800
    Nov 25 '18 at 3:07











  • @user36800: In C++ you can also make a copy of a const object and modify the copy. The const keyword in C++ is, IMO, useful in function interfaces as a guarantee that the data passed into the function is not modified (the compiler enforcement of the const-ness can be thrown out the door with const_cast anyway). In MATLAB you will always have this guarantee (except with handle classes).

    – Cris Luengo
    Nov 25 '18 at 7:01











  • My experience with C++ is 1.5 decades old, so I just read up on the current liberties taken with constant correctness. I understand your comment. However, I consider it an adequate safeguard to have the coder explicity cast away constantness before using it. The situation I'm seeking a solution for is when the coder intends to not modify the data for an argument, and wants Matlab to inform him/her if some of the code does that. Matlab guarantees that the original data isn't impacted, but I want to prevent the creation of a local copy due to the modification.

    – user36800
    Nov 25 '18 at 16:23





















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You can define a handle class that contains a table as it's preperty. Define a property set listener that triggers and generates error/warning when the value of the property changes.



classdef WarningTable < handle
properties (SetObservable)
t
end
methods
function obj = WarningTable(varargin)
obj.t = table(varargin);
addlistener(obj,'t','PreSet',...
@(a,b)warning('table changed!'));
end
end
end


This should generate warning:



mytable = WarningTable;
mytable.t(1,1) = 0;





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  • Interesting idea! But of course you can still do t=mytable.t; t(1,1)=0... I honestly don't see how you can prevent copies in any programming language.

    – Cris Luengo
    Nov 25 '18 at 6:56











  • There is not problem in using copy. OP wants const correctness that I think the listener can be regarded as a possible solution.

    – rahnema1
    Nov 25 '18 at 7:01













  • @CrisLuengo If table wasn't a sealed class we could subclass it with an overloaded subsasgn that warns.

    – rahnema1
    Nov 25 '18 at 7:16











  • Yes, indeed. Have you ever tried coping the table class file and modifying it? Is such a thing possible?

    – Cris Luengo
    Nov 25 '18 at 8:04






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    No, but here has been done.

    – rahnema1
    Nov 25 '18 at 9:43














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There is no way of making variables constants in MATLAB, except by creating a class with a constant (and static?) member variable. But even then you can do:



t = const_table_class.table;
t(1,1) = 0; % Created and modified a copy!


The reason that a function does not need to mark its inputs as const is because arguments are always passed by value. So a local modification does not modify data in the caller’s workspace. const is something that just doesn’t exist in the MATLAB language.



On the other hand, you can be certain that your data will not be modified by any of the functions you call. Thus, as long as the function that owns the tables does not modify them, they will remain constant. Any function you pass these tables to, if they attempt to modify them, they will create a local copy to be modified. This is only locally a problem. The memory used up by this copy will be freed upon function exit. It will be a bug in the function, but not affect code outside this function.






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  • I was afraid that would be the answer. I was hoping that there was a way to have an error or warning generated if designated argument to a function was modified. It's not for the situation in which the modification is intentional. It's to catch the cases in which I (as the coder) really wanted to not modify the data for an argument, but made a mistake in to code so that it modifies the data. That's one of the main benefits of constant correctness in C++. It tells the compiler to flag such situations. Ah well. Thanks! I now the pitfall that I have to be extra careful about.

    – user36800
    Nov 25 '18 at 3:07











  • @user36800: In C++ you can also make a copy of a const object and modify the copy. The const keyword in C++ is, IMO, useful in function interfaces as a guarantee that the data passed into the function is not modified (the compiler enforcement of the const-ness can be thrown out the door with const_cast anyway). In MATLAB you will always have this guarantee (except with handle classes).

    – Cris Luengo
    Nov 25 '18 at 7:01











  • My experience with C++ is 1.5 decades old, so I just read up on the current liberties taken with constant correctness. I understand your comment. However, I consider it an adequate safeguard to have the coder explicity cast away constantness before using it. The situation I'm seeking a solution for is when the coder intends to not modify the data for an argument, and wants Matlab to inform him/her if some of the code does that. Matlab guarantees that the original data isn't impacted, but I want to prevent the creation of a local copy due to the modification.

    – user36800
    Nov 25 '18 at 16:23


















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There is no way of making variables constants in MATLAB, except by creating a class with a constant (and static?) member variable. But even then you can do:



t = const_table_class.table;
t(1,1) = 0; % Created and modified a copy!


The reason that a function does not need to mark its inputs as const is because arguments are always passed by value. So a local modification does not modify data in the caller’s workspace. const is something that just doesn’t exist in the MATLAB language.



On the other hand, you can be certain that your data will not be modified by any of the functions you call. Thus, as long as the function that owns the tables does not modify them, they will remain constant. Any function you pass these tables to, if they attempt to modify them, they will create a local copy to be modified. This is only locally a problem. The memory used up by this copy will be freed upon function exit. It will be a bug in the function, but not affect code outside this function.






share|improve this answer


























  • I was afraid that would be the answer. I was hoping that there was a way to have an error or warning generated if designated argument to a function was modified. It's not for the situation in which the modification is intentional. It's to catch the cases in which I (as the coder) really wanted to not modify the data for an argument, but made a mistake in to code so that it modifies the data. That's one of the main benefits of constant correctness in C++. It tells the compiler to flag such situations. Ah well. Thanks! I now the pitfall that I have to be extra careful about.

    – user36800
    Nov 25 '18 at 3:07











  • @user36800: In C++ you can also make a copy of a const object and modify the copy. The const keyword in C++ is, IMO, useful in function interfaces as a guarantee that the data passed into the function is not modified (the compiler enforcement of the const-ness can be thrown out the door with const_cast anyway). In MATLAB you will always have this guarantee (except with handle classes).

    – Cris Luengo
    Nov 25 '18 at 7:01











  • My experience with C++ is 1.5 decades old, so I just read up on the current liberties taken with constant correctness. I understand your comment. However, I consider it an adequate safeguard to have the coder explicity cast away constantness before using it. The situation I'm seeking a solution for is when the coder intends to not modify the data for an argument, and wants Matlab to inform him/her if some of the code does that. Matlab guarantees that the original data isn't impacted, but I want to prevent the creation of a local copy due to the modification.

    – user36800
    Nov 25 '18 at 16:23
















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There is no way of making variables constants in MATLAB, except by creating a class with a constant (and static?) member variable. But even then you can do:



t = const_table_class.table;
t(1,1) = 0; % Created and modified a copy!


The reason that a function does not need to mark its inputs as const is because arguments are always passed by value. So a local modification does not modify data in the caller’s workspace. const is something that just doesn’t exist in the MATLAB language.



On the other hand, you can be certain that your data will not be modified by any of the functions you call. Thus, as long as the function that owns the tables does not modify them, they will remain constant. Any function you pass these tables to, if they attempt to modify them, they will create a local copy to be modified. This is only locally a problem. The memory used up by this copy will be freed upon function exit. It will be a bug in the function, but not affect code outside this function.






share|improve this answer















There is no way of making variables constants in MATLAB, except by creating a class with a constant (and static?) member variable. But even then you can do:



t = const_table_class.table;
t(1,1) = 0; % Created and modified a copy!


The reason that a function does not need to mark its inputs as const is because arguments are always passed by value. So a local modification does not modify data in the caller’s workspace. const is something that just doesn’t exist in the MATLAB language.



On the other hand, you can be certain that your data will not be modified by any of the functions you call. Thus, as long as the function that owns the tables does not modify them, they will remain constant. Any function you pass these tables to, if they attempt to modify them, they will create a local copy to be modified. This is only locally a problem. The memory used up by this copy will be freed upon function exit. It will be a bug in the function, but not affect code outside this function.







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  • I was afraid that would be the answer. I was hoping that there was a way to have an error or warning generated if designated argument to a function was modified. It's not for the situation in which the modification is intentional. It's to catch the cases in which I (as the coder) really wanted to not modify the data for an argument, but made a mistake in to code so that it modifies the data. That's one of the main benefits of constant correctness in C++. It tells the compiler to flag such situations. Ah well. Thanks! I now the pitfall that I have to be extra careful about.

    – user36800
    Nov 25 '18 at 3:07











  • @user36800: In C++ you can also make a copy of a const object and modify the copy. The const keyword in C++ is, IMO, useful in function interfaces as a guarantee that the data passed into the function is not modified (the compiler enforcement of the const-ness can be thrown out the door with const_cast anyway). In MATLAB you will always have this guarantee (except with handle classes).

    – Cris Luengo
    Nov 25 '18 at 7:01











  • My experience with C++ is 1.5 decades old, so I just read up on the current liberties taken with constant correctness. I understand your comment. However, I consider it an adequate safeguard to have the coder explicity cast away constantness before using it. The situation I'm seeking a solution for is when the coder intends to not modify the data for an argument, and wants Matlab to inform him/her if some of the code does that. Matlab guarantees that the original data isn't impacted, but I want to prevent the creation of a local copy due to the modification.

    – user36800
    Nov 25 '18 at 16:23





















  • I was afraid that would be the answer. I was hoping that there was a way to have an error or warning generated if designated argument to a function was modified. It's not for the situation in which the modification is intentional. It's to catch the cases in which I (as the coder) really wanted to not modify the data for an argument, but made a mistake in to code so that it modifies the data. That's one of the main benefits of constant correctness in C++. It tells the compiler to flag such situations. Ah well. Thanks! I now the pitfall that I have to be extra careful about.

    – user36800
    Nov 25 '18 at 3:07











  • @user36800: In C++ you can also make a copy of a const object and modify the copy. The const keyword in C++ is, IMO, useful in function interfaces as a guarantee that the data passed into the function is not modified (the compiler enforcement of the const-ness can be thrown out the door with const_cast anyway). In MATLAB you will always have this guarantee (except with handle classes).

    – Cris Luengo
    Nov 25 '18 at 7:01











  • My experience with C++ is 1.5 decades old, so I just read up on the current liberties taken with constant correctness. I understand your comment. However, I consider it an adequate safeguard to have the coder explicity cast away constantness before using it. The situation I'm seeking a solution for is when the coder intends to not modify the data for an argument, and wants Matlab to inform him/her if some of the code does that. Matlab guarantees that the original data isn't impacted, but I want to prevent the creation of a local copy due to the modification.

    – user36800
    Nov 25 '18 at 16:23



















I was afraid that would be the answer. I was hoping that there was a way to have an error or warning generated if designated argument to a function was modified. It's not for the situation in which the modification is intentional. It's to catch the cases in which I (as the coder) really wanted to not modify the data for an argument, but made a mistake in to code so that it modifies the data. That's one of the main benefits of constant correctness in C++. It tells the compiler to flag such situations. Ah well. Thanks! I now the pitfall that I have to be extra careful about.

– user36800
Nov 25 '18 at 3:07





I was afraid that would be the answer. I was hoping that there was a way to have an error or warning generated if designated argument to a function was modified. It's not for the situation in which the modification is intentional. It's to catch the cases in which I (as the coder) really wanted to not modify the data for an argument, but made a mistake in to code so that it modifies the data. That's one of the main benefits of constant correctness in C++. It tells the compiler to flag such situations. Ah well. Thanks! I now the pitfall that I have to be extra careful about.

– user36800
Nov 25 '18 at 3:07













@user36800: In C++ you can also make a copy of a const object and modify the copy. The const keyword in C++ is, IMO, useful in function interfaces as a guarantee that the data passed into the function is not modified (the compiler enforcement of the const-ness can be thrown out the door with const_cast anyway). In MATLAB you will always have this guarantee (except with handle classes).

– Cris Luengo
Nov 25 '18 at 7:01





@user36800: In C++ you can also make a copy of a const object and modify the copy. The const keyword in C++ is, IMO, useful in function interfaces as a guarantee that the data passed into the function is not modified (the compiler enforcement of the const-ness can be thrown out the door with const_cast anyway). In MATLAB you will always have this guarantee (except with handle classes).

– Cris Luengo
Nov 25 '18 at 7:01













My experience with C++ is 1.5 decades old, so I just read up on the current liberties taken with constant correctness. I understand your comment. However, I consider it an adequate safeguard to have the coder explicity cast away constantness before using it. The situation I'm seeking a solution for is when the coder intends to not modify the data for an argument, and wants Matlab to inform him/her if some of the code does that. Matlab guarantees that the original data isn't impacted, but I want to prevent the creation of a local copy due to the modification.

– user36800
Nov 25 '18 at 16:23







My experience with C++ is 1.5 decades old, so I just read up on the current liberties taken with constant correctness. I understand your comment. However, I consider it an adequate safeguard to have the coder explicity cast away constantness before using it. The situation I'm seeking a solution for is when the coder intends to not modify the data for an argument, and wants Matlab to inform him/her if some of the code does that. Matlab guarantees that the original data isn't impacted, but I want to prevent the creation of a local copy due to the modification.

– user36800
Nov 25 '18 at 16:23















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You can define a handle class that contains a table as it's preperty. Define a property set listener that triggers and generates error/warning when the value of the property changes.



classdef WarningTable < handle
properties (SetObservable)
t
end
methods
function obj = WarningTable(varargin)
obj.t = table(varargin);
addlistener(obj,'t','PreSet',...
@(a,b)warning('table changed!'));
end
end
end


This should generate warning:



mytable = WarningTable;
mytable.t(1,1) = 0;





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  • Interesting idea! But of course you can still do t=mytable.t; t(1,1)=0... I honestly don't see how you can prevent copies in any programming language.

    – Cris Luengo
    Nov 25 '18 at 6:56











  • There is not problem in using copy. OP wants const correctness that I think the listener can be regarded as a possible solution.

    – rahnema1
    Nov 25 '18 at 7:01













  • @CrisLuengo If table wasn't a sealed class we could subclass it with an overloaded subsasgn that warns.

    – rahnema1
    Nov 25 '18 at 7:16











  • Yes, indeed. Have you ever tried coping the table class file and modifying it? Is such a thing possible?

    – Cris Luengo
    Nov 25 '18 at 8:04






  • 1





    No, but here has been done.

    – rahnema1
    Nov 25 '18 at 9:43


















1














You can define a handle class that contains a table as it's preperty. Define a property set listener that triggers and generates error/warning when the value of the property changes.



classdef WarningTable < handle
properties (SetObservable)
t
end
methods
function obj = WarningTable(varargin)
obj.t = table(varargin);
addlistener(obj,'t','PreSet',...
@(a,b)warning('table changed!'));
end
end
end


This should generate warning:



mytable = WarningTable;
mytable.t(1,1) = 0;





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  • Interesting idea! But of course you can still do t=mytable.t; t(1,1)=0... I honestly don't see how you can prevent copies in any programming language.

    – Cris Luengo
    Nov 25 '18 at 6:56











  • There is not problem in using copy. OP wants const correctness that I think the listener can be regarded as a possible solution.

    – rahnema1
    Nov 25 '18 at 7:01













  • @CrisLuengo If table wasn't a sealed class we could subclass it with an overloaded subsasgn that warns.

    – rahnema1
    Nov 25 '18 at 7:16











  • Yes, indeed. Have you ever tried coping the table class file and modifying it? Is such a thing possible?

    – Cris Luengo
    Nov 25 '18 at 8:04






  • 1





    No, but here has been done.

    – rahnema1
    Nov 25 '18 at 9:43
















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You can define a handle class that contains a table as it's preperty. Define a property set listener that triggers and generates error/warning when the value of the property changes.



classdef WarningTable < handle
properties (SetObservable)
t
end
methods
function obj = WarningTable(varargin)
obj.t = table(varargin);
addlistener(obj,'t','PreSet',...
@(a,b)warning('table changed!'));
end
end
end


This should generate warning:



mytable = WarningTable;
mytable.t(1,1) = 0;





share|improve this answer















You can define a handle class that contains a table as it's preperty. Define a property set listener that triggers and generates error/warning when the value of the property changes.



classdef WarningTable < handle
properties (SetObservable)
t
end
methods
function obj = WarningTable(varargin)
obj.t = table(varargin);
addlistener(obj,'t','PreSet',...
@(a,b)warning('table changed!'));
end
end
end


This should generate warning:



mytable = WarningTable;
mytable.t(1,1) = 0;






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  • Interesting idea! But of course you can still do t=mytable.t; t(1,1)=0... I honestly don't see how you can prevent copies in any programming language.

    – Cris Luengo
    Nov 25 '18 at 6:56











  • There is not problem in using copy. OP wants const correctness that I think the listener can be regarded as a possible solution.

    – rahnema1
    Nov 25 '18 at 7:01













  • @CrisLuengo If table wasn't a sealed class we could subclass it with an overloaded subsasgn that warns.

    – rahnema1
    Nov 25 '18 at 7:16











  • Yes, indeed. Have you ever tried coping the table class file and modifying it? Is such a thing possible?

    – Cris Luengo
    Nov 25 '18 at 8:04






  • 1





    No, but here has been done.

    – rahnema1
    Nov 25 '18 at 9:43





















  • Interesting idea! But of course you can still do t=mytable.t; t(1,1)=0... I honestly don't see how you can prevent copies in any programming language.

    – Cris Luengo
    Nov 25 '18 at 6:56











  • There is not problem in using copy. OP wants const correctness that I think the listener can be regarded as a possible solution.

    – rahnema1
    Nov 25 '18 at 7:01













  • @CrisLuengo If table wasn't a sealed class we could subclass it with an overloaded subsasgn that warns.

    – rahnema1
    Nov 25 '18 at 7:16











  • Yes, indeed. Have you ever tried coping the table class file and modifying it? Is such a thing possible?

    – Cris Luengo
    Nov 25 '18 at 8:04






  • 1





    No, but here has been done.

    – rahnema1
    Nov 25 '18 at 9:43



















Interesting idea! But of course you can still do t=mytable.t; t(1,1)=0... I honestly don't see how you can prevent copies in any programming language.

– Cris Luengo
Nov 25 '18 at 6:56





Interesting idea! But of course you can still do t=mytable.t; t(1,1)=0... I honestly don't see how you can prevent copies in any programming language.

– Cris Luengo
Nov 25 '18 at 6:56













There is not problem in using copy. OP wants const correctness that I think the listener can be regarded as a possible solution.

– rahnema1
Nov 25 '18 at 7:01







There is not problem in using copy. OP wants const correctness that I think the listener can be regarded as a possible solution.

– rahnema1
Nov 25 '18 at 7:01















@CrisLuengo If table wasn't a sealed class we could subclass it with an overloaded subsasgn that warns.

– rahnema1
Nov 25 '18 at 7:16





@CrisLuengo If table wasn't a sealed class we could subclass it with an overloaded subsasgn that warns.

– rahnema1
Nov 25 '18 at 7:16













Yes, indeed. Have you ever tried coping the table class file and modifying it? Is such a thing possible?

– Cris Luengo
Nov 25 '18 at 8:04





Yes, indeed. Have you ever tried coping the table class file and modifying it? Is such a thing possible?

– Cris Luengo
Nov 25 '18 at 8:04




1




1





No, but here has been done.

– rahnema1
Nov 25 '18 at 9:43







No, but here has been done.

– rahnema1
Nov 25 '18 at 9:43




















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