Length of AES encrypted data












0















I have a data that needs to be stored in a database as encrypted, the maximum length of the data before encryption is 50 chars (English or Arabic), I need to encrypt the data using AES-128 bit, and store the output in the database (base64string).



How to know the length of the data after encryption?










share|improve this question





























    0















    I have a data that needs to be stored in a database as encrypted, the maximum length of the data before encryption is 50 chars (English or Arabic), I need to encrypt the data using AES-128 bit, and store the output in the database (base64string).



    How to know the length of the data after encryption?










    share|improve this question



























      0












      0








      0








      I have a data that needs to be stored in a database as encrypted, the maximum length of the data before encryption is 50 chars (English or Arabic), I need to encrypt the data using AES-128 bit, and store the output in the database (base64string).



      How to know the length of the data after encryption?










      share|improve this question
















      I have a data that needs to be stored in a database as encrypted, the maximum length of the data before encryption is 50 chars (English or Arabic), I need to encrypt the data using AES-128 bit, and store the output in the database (base64string).



      How to know the length of the data after encryption?







      asp.net vb.net aes






      share|improve this question















      share|improve this question













      share|improve this question




      share|improve this question








      edited Nov 16 '18 at 21:48







      Imad Abu Hayyah

















      asked Nov 16 '18 at 20:53









      Imad Abu HayyahImad Abu Hayyah

      947




      947
























          1 Answer
          1






          active

          oldest

          votes


















          0














          Try it with your specified algorithm, block size, IV size, and see what size output you get :-)



          First it depends on the encoding of the input text. Is it UTF8? UTF16?
          Lets assume UTF8 so 1 Byte per character means 50 Bytes of input data to your encryption algorithm. (100 Bytes if UTF16)



          Then you will pad to the Block Size for the algorithm. AES, regardless of key size is a block of 16 Bytes. So we will be padded out to 64 Bytes (Or 112 for UTF 16)



          Then we need to store the IV and header information. So that is (usually, with default settings/IV sizes) another 16Bytes so we are at 80 Bytes (Or 128 for UTF16)



          Finally we are encoding to Base64. I assume you want string length, since otherwise it is wasteful to make it into a string. So Base 64 bloats the string using the following formula: Ceil(bytes/3) * 4. So for us that is Ceil(80/3) = 27 * 4 = 108 characters (Or 172 for UTF 16)



          Again this is all highly dependent on your choices of how you encrypt, what the text is encoded as, etc.



          I would try it with your scenario before relying on these numbers for anything useful.






          share|improve this answer
























          • Thank you for your answer, I'm using ASCII Encoding.

            – Imad Abu Hayyah
            Nov 16 '18 at 23:06











          • Lets assume UTF8 so 1 Byte? If the OP was using a US-ASCII only source. One single CodePoint outside that path and you have, possibly, 2 to 4 bytes per char.

            – Jimi
            Nov 16 '18 at 23:15













          • What about Arabic characters? Is it each char needs two bytes?

            – Imad Abu Hayyah
            Nov 16 '18 at 23:15











          Your Answer






          StackExchange.ifUsing("editor", function () {
          StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function () {
          StackExchange.using("snippets", function () {
          StackExchange.snippets.init();
          });
          });
          }, "code-snippets");

          StackExchange.ready(function() {
          var channelOptions = {
          tags: "".split(" "),
          id: "1"
          };
          initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);

          StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function() {
          // Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
          if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled) {
          StackExchange.using("snippets", function() {
          createEditor();
          });
          }
          else {
          createEditor();
          }
          });

          function createEditor() {
          StackExchange.prepareEditor({
          heartbeatType: 'answer',
          autoActivateHeartbeat: false,
          convertImagesToLinks: true,
          noModals: true,
          showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
          reputationToPostImages: 10,
          bindNavPrevention: true,
          postfix: "",
          imageUploader: {
          brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
          contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
          allowUrls: true
          },
          onDemand: true,
          discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
          ,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
          });


          }
          });














          draft saved

          draft discarded


















          StackExchange.ready(
          function () {
          StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fstackoverflow.com%2fquestions%2f53345224%2flength-of-aes-encrypted-data%23new-answer', 'question_page');
          }
          );

          Post as a guest















          Required, but never shown

























          1 Answer
          1






          active

          oldest

          votes








          1 Answer
          1






          active

          oldest

          votes









          active

          oldest

          votes






          active

          oldest

          votes









          0














          Try it with your specified algorithm, block size, IV size, and see what size output you get :-)



          First it depends on the encoding of the input text. Is it UTF8? UTF16?
          Lets assume UTF8 so 1 Byte per character means 50 Bytes of input data to your encryption algorithm. (100 Bytes if UTF16)



          Then you will pad to the Block Size for the algorithm. AES, regardless of key size is a block of 16 Bytes. So we will be padded out to 64 Bytes (Or 112 for UTF 16)



          Then we need to store the IV and header information. So that is (usually, with default settings/IV sizes) another 16Bytes so we are at 80 Bytes (Or 128 for UTF16)



          Finally we are encoding to Base64. I assume you want string length, since otherwise it is wasteful to make it into a string. So Base 64 bloats the string using the following formula: Ceil(bytes/3) * 4. So for us that is Ceil(80/3) = 27 * 4 = 108 characters (Or 172 for UTF 16)



          Again this is all highly dependent on your choices of how you encrypt, what the text is encoded as, etc.



          I would try it with your scenario before relying on these numbers for anything useful.






          share|improve this answer
























          • Thank you for your answer, I'm using ASCII Encoding.

            – Imad Abu Hayyah
            Nov 16 '18 at 23:06











          • Lets assume UTF8 so 1 Byte? If the OP was using a US-ASCII only source. One single CodePoint outside that path and you have, possibly, 2 to 4 bytes per char.

            – Jimi
            Nov 16 '18 at 23:15













          • What about Arabic characters? Is it each char needs two bytes?

            – Imad Abu Hayyah
            Nov 16 '18 at 23:15
















          0














          Try it with your specified algorithm, block size, IV size, and see what size output you get :-)



          First it depends on the encoding of the input text. Is it UTF8? UTF16?
          Lets assume UTF8 so 1 Byte per character means 50 Bytes of input data to your encryption algorithm. (100 Bytes if UTF16)



          Then you will pad to the Block Size for the algorithm. AES, regardless of key size is a block of 16 Bytes. So we will be padded out to 64 Bytes (Or 112 for UTF 16)



          Then we need to store the IV and header information. So that is (usually, with default settings/IV sizes) another 16Bytes so we are at 80 Bytes (Or 128 for UTF16)



          Finally we are encoding to Base64. I assume you want string length, since otherwise it is wasteful to make it into a string. So Base 64 bloats the string using the following formula: Ceil(bytes/3) * 4. So for us that is Ceil(80/3) = 27 * 4 = 108 characters (Or 172 for UTF 16)



          Again this is all highly dependent on your choices of how you encrypt, what the text is encoded as, etc.



          I would try it with your scenario before relying on these numbers for anything useful.






          share|improve this answer
























          • Thank you for your answer, I'm using ASCII Encoding.

            – Imad Abu Hayyah
            Nov 16 '18 at 23:06











          • Lets assume UTF8 so 1 Byte? If the OP was using a US-ASCII only source. One single CodePoint outside that path and you have, possibly, 2 to 4 bytes per char.

            – Jimi
            Nov 16 '18 at 23:15













          • What about Arabic characters? Is it each char needs two bytes?

            – Imad Abu Hayyah
            Nov 16 '18 at 23:15














          0












          0








          0







          Try it with your specified algorithm, block size, IV size, and see what size output you get :-)



          First it depends on the encoding of the input text. Is it UTF8? UTF16?
          Lets assume UTF8 so 1 Byte per character means 50 Bytes of input data to your encryption algorithm. (100 Bytes if UTF16)



          Then you will pad to the Block Size for the algorithm. AES, regardless of key size is a block of 16 Bytes. So we will be padded out to 64 Bytes (Or 112 for UTF 16)



          Then we need to store the IV and header information. So that is (usually, with default settings/IV sizes) another 16Bytes so we are at 80 Bytes (Or 128 for UTF16)



          Finally we are encoding to Base64. I assume you want string length, since otherwise it is wasteful to make it into a string. So Base 64 bloats the string using the following formula: Ceil(bytes/3) * 4. So for us that is Ceil(80/3) = 27 * 4 = 108 characters (Or 172 for UTF 16)



          Again this is all highly dependent on your choices of how you encrypt, what the text is encoded as, etc.



          I would try it with your scenario before relying on these numbers for anything useful.






          share|improve this answer













          Try it with your specified algorithm, block size, IV size, and see what size output you get :-)



          First it depends on the encoding of the input text. Is it UTF8? UTF16?
          Lets assume UTF8 so 1 Byte per character means 50 Bytes of input data to your encryption algorithm. (100 Bytes if UTF16)



          Then you will pad to the Block Size for the algorithm. AES, regardless of key size is a block of 16 Bytes. So we will be padded out to 64 Bytes (Or 112 for UTF 16)



          Then we need to store the IV and header information. So that is (usually, with default settings/IV sizes) another 16Bytes so we are at 80 Bytes (Or 128 for UTF16)



          Finally we are encoding to Base64. I assume you want string length, since otherwise it is wasteful to make it into a string. So Base 64 bloats the string using the following formula: Ceil(bytes/3) * 4. So for us that is Ceil(80/3) = 27 * 4 = 108 characters (Or 172 for UTF 16)



          Again this is all highly dependent on your choices of how you encrypt, what the text is encoded as, etc.



          I would try it with your scenario before relying on these numbers for anything useful.







          share|improve this answer












          share|improve this answer



          share|improve this answer










          answered Nov 16 '18 at 22:19









          TimTim

          2,1541715




          2,1541715













          • Thank you for your answer, I'm using ASCII Encoding.

            – Imad Abu Hayyah
            Nov 16 '18 at 23:06











          • Lets assume UTF8 so 1 Byte? If the OP was using a US-ASCII only source. One single CodePoint outside that path and you have, possibly, 2 to 4 bytes per char.

            – Jimi
            Nov 16 '18 at 23:15













          • What about Arabic characters? Is it each char needs two bytes?

            – Imad Abu Hayyah
            Nov 16 '18 at 23:15



















          • Thank you for your answer, I'm using ASCII Encoding.

            – Imad Abu Hayyah
            Nov 16 '18 at 23:06











          • Lets assume UTF8 so 1 Byte? If the OP was using a US-ASCII only source. One single CodePoint outside that path and you have, possibly, 2 to 4 bytes per char.

            – Jimi
            Nov 16 '18 at 23:15













          • What about Arabic characters? Is it each char needs two bytes?

            – Imad Abu Hayyah
            Nov 16 '18 at 23:15

















          Thank you for your answer, I'm using ASCII Encoding.

          – Imad Abu Hayyah
          Nov 16 '18 at 23:06





          Thank you for your answer, I'm using ASCII Encoding.

          – Imad Abu Hayyah
          Nov 16 '18 at 23:06













          Lets assume UTF8 so 1 Byte? If the OP was using a US-ASCII only source. One single CodePoint outside that path and you have, possibly, 2 to 4 bytes per char.

          – Jimi
          Nov 16 '18 at 23:15







          Lets assume UTF8 so 1 Byte? If the OP was using a US-ASCII only source. One single CodePoint outside that path and you have, possibly, 2 to 4 bytes per char.

          – Jimi
          Nov 16 '18 at 23:15















          What about Arabic characters? Is it each char needs two bytes?

          – Imad Abu Hayyah
          Nov 16 '18 at 23:15





          What about Arabic characters? Is it each char needs two bytes?

          – Imad Abu Hayyah
          Nov 16 '18 at 23:15


















          draft saved

          draft discarded




















































          Thanks for contributing an answer to Stack Overflow!


          • Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!

          But avoid



          • Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.

          • Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.


          To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.




          draft saved


          draft discarded














          StackExchange.ready(
          function () {
          StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fstackoverflow.com%2fquestions%2f53345224%2flength-of-aes-encrypted-data%23new-answer', 'question_page');
          }
          );

          Post as a guest















          Required, but never shown





















































          Required, but never shown














          Required, but never shown












          Required, but never shown







          Required, but never shown

































          Required, but never shown














          Required, but never shown












          Required, but never shown







          Required, but never shown







          這個網誌中的熱門文章

          Academy of Television Arts & Sciences

          L'Équipe

          1995 France bombings