How to organize multiple electrical wires going into an ultra thin recessed light?












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I am installing ultra thin recessed light in the basement and it comes with a very small metal box (probably 2x4 in in size). Due to the old wiring of the house, there are 5 wires coming in totally: power to light 1, power to light 2, 2 switches, and the light itself. It's going to be very "crowded" because the wire nut will have to fit like 4-5 wires.



I would like to "connect" everything" outside of the ultra thin metal box and only leave 3 wires (white, black, ground) coming into the box itself.



I am thinking of a few options:




  1. Use an electrical box and connect everything in there but leave 3 wires out to go into the recessed box. Then close the box with a lid and just sort of "throw" it up in the ceiling somewhere (no screw or mount into joists).


  2. Tear up the ceiling to find a joist and install a Round Hard-Shell Ceiling Box then connect everything there. However, the hard part is to connect existing wiring since some are not long enough. I may have to create additional lumber support. Either that or I have to use the ceiling box that has a metal bar to mount both joists. Regardless, this is major ceiling work and drywall fixes.



I am leaning toward Option 1 as I doubt there is any unforeseen issue. What are your thoughts?



Reference: the light I bought is



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https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B079GLKCV7/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1










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    I am installing ultra thin recessed light in the basement and it comes with a very small metal box (probably 2x4 in in size). Due to the old wiring of the house, there are 5 wires coming in totally: power to light 1, power to light 2, 2 switches, and the light itself. It's going to be very "crowded" because the wire nut will have to fit like 4-5 wires.



    I would like to "connect" everything" outside of the ultra thin metal box and only leave 3 wires (white, black, ground) coming into the box itself.



    I am thinking of a few options:




    1. Use an electrical box and connect everything in there but leave 3 wires out to go into the recessed box. Then close the box with a lid and just sort of "throw" it up in the ceiling somewhere (no screw or mount into joists).


    2. Tear up the ceiling to find a joist and install a Round Hard-Shell Ceiling Box then connect everything there. However, the hard part is to connect existing wiring since some are not long enough. I may have to create additional lumber support. Either that or I have to use the ceiling box that has a metal bar to mount both joists. Regardless, this is major ceiling work and drywall fixes.



    I am leaning toward Option 1 as I doubt there is any unforeseen issue. What are your thoughts?



    Reference: the light I bought is



    enter image description here



    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B079GLKCV7/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1










    share|improve this question

























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      I am installing ultra thin recessed light in the basement and it comes with a very small metal box (probably 2x4 in in size). Due to the old wiring of the house, there are 5 wires coming in totally: power to light 1, power to light 2, 2 switches, and the light itself. It's going to be very "crowded" because the wire nut will have to fit like 4-5 wires.



      I would like to "connect" everything" outside of the ultra thin metal box and only leave 3 wires (white, black, ground) coming into the box itself.



      I am thinking of a few options:




      1. Use an electrical box and connect everything in there but leave 3 wires out to go into the recessed box. Then close the box with a lid and just sort of "throw" it up in the ceiling somewhere (no screw or mount into joists).


      2. Tear up the ceiling to find a joist and install a Round Hard-Shell Ceiling Box then connect everything there. However, the hard part is to connect existing wiring since some are not long enough. I may have to create additional lumber support. Either that or I have to use the ceiling box that has a metal bar to mount both joists. Regardless, this is major ceiling work and drywall fixes.



      I am leaning toward Option 1 as I doubt there is any unforeseen issue. What are your thoughts?



      Reference: the light I bought is



      enter image description here



      https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B079GLKCV7/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1










      share|improve this question














      I am installing ultra thin recessed light in the basement and it comes with a very small metal box (probably 2x4 in in size). Due to the old wiring of the house, there are 5 wires coming in totally: power to light 1, power to light 2, 2 switches, and the light itself. It's going to be very "crowded" because the wire nut will have to fit like 4-5 wires.



      I would like to "connect" everything" outside of the ultra thin metal box and only leave 3 wires (white, black, ground) coming into the box itself.



      I am thinking of a few options:




      1. Use an electrical box and connect everything in there but leave 3 wires out to go into the recessed box. Then close the box with a lid and just sort of "throw" it up in the ceiling somewhere (no screw or mount into joists).


      2. Tear up the ceiling to find a joist and install a Round Hard-Shell Ceiling Box then connect everything there. However, the hard part is to connect existing wiring since some are not long enough. I may have to create additional lumber support. Either that or I have to use the ceiling box that has a metal bar to mount both joists. Regardless, this is major ceiling work and drywall fixes.



      I am leaning toward Option 1 as I doubt there is any unforeseen issue. What are your thoughts?



      Reference: the light I bought is



      enter image description here



      https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B079GLKCV7/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1







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          Use an old work box to house the splices



          There's a simple way out of this, and that's to use an old work box mounted into the ceiling drywall to house the electrical splices. A 3 gang switch box will do the trick, or you can use a 4 11/16" square box that's 1.5" or deeper if you can get an old work mountable version of that. (Really, anything that supplies more than 29.5 in3 of space will do.)






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            Use an old work box to house the splices



            There's a simple way out of this, and that's to use an old work box mounted into the ceiling drywall to house the electrical splices. A 3 gang switch box will do the trick, or you can use a 4 11/16" square box that's 1.5" or deeper if you can get an old work mountable version of that. (Really, anything that supplies more than 29.5 in3 of space will do.)






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              Use an old work box to house the splices



              There's a simple way out of this, and that's to use an old work box mounted into the ceiling drywall to house the electrical splices. A 3 gang switch box will do the trick, or you can use a 4 11/16" square box that's 1.5" or deeper if you can get an old work mountable version of that. (Really, anything that supplies more than 29.5 in3 of space will do.)






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                Use an old work box to house the splices



                There's a simple way out of this, and that's to use an old work box mounted into the ceiling drywall to house the electrical splices. A 3 gang switch box will do the trick, or you can use a 4 11/16" square box that's 1.5" or deeper if you can get an old work mountable version of that. (Really, anything that supplies more than 29.5 in3 of space will do.)






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                Use an old work box to house the splices



                There's a simple way out of this, and that's to use an old work box mounted into the ceiling drywall to house the electrical splices. A 3 gang switch box will do the trick, or you can use a 4 11/16" square box that's 1.5" or deeper if you can get an old work mountable version of that. (Really, anything that supplies more than 29.5 in3 of space will do.)







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