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I am working on a souls-like game and I would like to have an item that works like Fragrant Branch of Yore from DS2.



I do not want to copy the concept of petrification from DS2 so while the item should work in a similar way I would like it to have different look, feel and lore behind it.



In order to describe the mechanic (requirements) I will use the words "door" and "key" for simplicity. The question is which items (enchantments, etc.) can be used to act as "doors" and "keys".



Requirements:




  • Any "door" can be opened with any "key"

  • Once opened the "door" stays open

  • It must be possible to purposefully construct a "door".

  • The "key" can only be used once.

  • Creating a "door" may require the use of magic but opening a "door" with a "key" should not require magic abilities

  • "Doors" are not portals. You can not teleport to a different location by walking through a "door".


Desired but not required:




  • The "doors" can appear randomly (like vines growing over a normal door)

  • the "keys" should be rare but it should not be obvious where to find one (for example if only rich people could possess them, it would make no sense to search for a key in a poor man's house)










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    "Any door can be opened with any key" - looks more like a token than a key (though it may look like a key).
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    See sokoban level in nethack ;-) The "doors" are pits and the "keys" are boulders to fill the pits
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I am working on a souls-like game and I would like to have an item that works like Fragrant Branch of Yore from DS2.



I do not want to copy the concept of petrification from DS2 so while the item should work in a similar way I would like it to have different look, feel and lore behind it.



In order to describe the mechanic (requirements) I will use the words "door" and "key" for simplicity. The question is which items (enchantments, etc.) can be used to act as "doors" and "keys".



Requirements:




  • Any "door" can be opened with any "key"

  • Once opened the "door" stays open

  • It must be possible to purposefully construct a "door".

  • The "key" can only be used once.

  • Creating a "door" may require the use of magic but opening a "door" with a "key" should not require magic abilities

  • "Doors" are not portals. You can not teleport to a different location by walking through a "door".


Desired but not required:




  • The "doors" can appear randomly (like vines growing over a normal door)

  • the "keys" should be rare but it should not be obvious where to find one (for example if only rich people could possess them, it would make no sense to search for a key in a poor man's house)










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    "Any door can be opened with any key" - looks more like a token than a key (though it may look like a key).
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    See sokoban level in nethack ;-) The "doors" are pits and the "keys" are boulders to fill the pits
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I am working on a souls-like game and I would like to have an item that works like Fragrant Branch of Yore from DS2.



I do not want to copy the concept of petrification from DS2 so while the item should work in a similar way I would like it to have different look, feel and lore behind it.



In order to describe the mechanic (requirements) I will use the words "door" and "key" for simplicity. The question is which items (enchantments, etc.) can be used to act as "doors" and "keys".



Requirements:




  • Any "door" can be opened with any "key"

  • Once opened the "door" stays open

  • It must be possible to purposefully construct a "door".

  • The "key" can only be used once.

  • Creating a "door" may require the use of magic but opening a "door" with a "key" should not require magic abilities

  • "Doors" are not portals. You can not teleport to a different location by walking through a "door".


Desired but not required:




  • The "doors" can appear randomly (like vines growing over a normal door)

  • the "keys" should be rare but it should not be obvious where to find one (for example if only rich people could possess them, it would make no sense to search for a key in a poor man's house)










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I am working on a souls-like game and I would like to have an item that works like Fragrant Branch of Yore from DS2.



I do not want to copy the concept of petrification from DS2 so while the item should work in a similar way I would like it to have different look, feel and lore behind it.



In order to describe the mechanic (requirements) I will use the words "door" and "key" for simplicity. The question is which items (enchantments, etc.) can be used to act as "doors" and "keys".



Requirements:




  • Any "door" can be opened with any "key"

  • Once opened the "door" stays open

  • It must be possible to purposefully construct a "door".

  • The "key" can only be used once.

  • Creating a "door" may require the use of magic but opening a "door" with a "key" should not require magic abilities

  • "Doors" are not portals. You can not teleport to a different location by walking through a "door".


Desired but not required:




  • The "doors" can appear randomly (like vines growing over a normal door)

  • the "keys" should be rare but it should not be obvious where to find one (for example if only rich people could possess them, it would make no sense to search for a key in a poor man's house)







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    See sokoban level in nethack ;-) The "doors" are pits and the "keys" are boulders to fill the pits
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  1. A "door" is a chunk of stuff which occludes passage.


  2. A key is an explosive, like a stick of dynamite. It could be in the shape of a key which would be cute.



Using the key blows a hole in the door. You can use a key once, because after that it is blown up.



Once there is a hole in the door you can walk through. You might need to stoop. The hole will not close by itself.



Any key will work on any door. And on other things too, if you want.



Using a key might involve lighting a fuse, possibly from your lit cigar. Running away is optional but encouraged.



Doors can appear on their own. For example, a big tree might qualify as a "door" if it were in your way. A rockslide could be a door. A large animal, alive or dead, might also be considered a "door". The door to your favorite pub that they have pushed you thru and locked behind you would also qualify as a door, the bastards. Fortunately you have a lit cigar and rare locksmithing talents at the ready.






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    This is is so simple and fits so perfectly i don't understand how it was not obvious to me. Thanks you very much
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    With obvious precedent in Legend of Zelda (back to the original) for anyone who missed it. ;-)
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    You might could call the key item a "way-clearer" to get away from the key imagery.
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    Related: whales as doors.
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    "Dwarf master-key" Also qualifies
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Secrets secrets (in this case) are so fun!



Create a shadow organization that deals in information. Your “doors” are members of the organization that guard entrances, and your “keys” are interesting secrets.



Requirements:




Any "door" can be opened with any "key"




Any member of this organization will accept any valuable secret you have.




Once opened the "door" stays open




The guard to an area recognizes your contribution, and always allows you through (after paying, of course).




It must be possible to purposefully construct a "door.”




Naturally, this organization can be hired out given the appropriate payment.




The "key" can only be used once.




Once the organization is aware of a secret, it is no longer a secret to them.



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The "doors" can appear randomly (like vines growing over a normal door)




The motivations of this organizations can seem random to the player.




The "keys" should be rare but it should not be obvious where to find one (for example if only rich people could possess them, it would make no sense to search for a key in a poor man's house)




This should certainly be true about meaningful secrets.






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    Alas it does not fit my setting, but this is very creative
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  • A sacrifice or votive offering. Burn a pinch of incense, and the portal opens.

  • A rusty door and a can of WD-40. The door is sticky, and requires lubricant. Due to the environmental conditions, the effect won't last.

  • There is a spell on the door, but certain folk remedies like cold iron horseshoes will dispell it for a time. The horseshoe must be nailed to the door, or perhaps buried under it.






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    Combining your second suggestion with the "vines" example in the question to fit the "appear randomly/spontaneously" part: The "door" is a plant or fungus that grows over the door, and the "key" is a form of weedkiller - perhaps a magic sort, such as an enchanted nail that you drive into the main trunk, which would allow puzzles where you can see the door, but need to locate the "lock".
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The "doors" are limbs of a massive interdimensional eldritch being. A magic-user can bind them to our reality and coalesce their power into some sort of token, and those tokens can then be used to banish it back. For bonus points, this being could have some relevance to the game's overall plot (or it could be a Giant Space Flea From Nowhere bonus boss).



Requirements:




Any "door" can be opened with any "key"




The tokens are interchangeable; they all contain the same magic.




Once opened the "door" stays open




Unless someone binds it again, at least.




It must be possible to purposefully construct a "door".




With magic.




The "key" can only be used once.




Using a token discharges its magic and destroys it.




Creating a "door" may require the use of magic but opening a "door" with a "key" should not require magic abilities




Anyone can use the tokens to banish it, all it requires is physical contact.




"Doors" are not portals. You can not teleport to a different location by walking through a "door".




Banishing it just removes an obstacle, you're left with an ordinary opening.



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The "doors" can appear randomly (like vines growing over a normal door)




Perhaps it can occasionally manifest itself into our reality without assistance? Though that would still require explaining where the tokens come from. Maybe the token manifests nearby in the form of a shiny object, which some critter takes away and hides.




the "keys" should be rare but it should not be obvious where to find one (for example if only rich people could possess them, it would make no sense to search for a key in a poor man's house)




Tokens would be wherever the magic-users decide to put them, so that isn't a problem unless they all have consistent habits (or see above).






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    Recently the local area has become infested with Barhools! Barhools are large bearlike creatures that spend most of their time sleeping. They're nearly indestructible and immune to all magic, but fortunately they're pretty harmless - except when they first wake up, whereapon they immediately seize and devour the nearest creature before wandering off.



    Fortunately for you, Barhools are rather partial to Foostirs - large grublike creatures which can be found just about everywhere. They're in rather short supply at the moment due to Barhool predation, but I'm sure that you can find some hidden in out of the way places, right?



    (More generally, any sort of bribe for a group of people or creatures works well for this sort of thing.)






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      How do you explain that no Barhool will ever sleep in front of a door where previously a Barhool has been fed away?
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      @Geliormth Barhools are very clean, and wouldn't sleep on a leftover carcass, either fresh or rotten. It will disappear completely in months, but this could be longer than the game's in-game timescale, or a respawn months later could be acceptable.
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      @Geliormth Barhools are territorial, and won't sleep in spots where they can smell that one was sleeping previously.
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    A simple mechanical solution would work just like a vending machine. That vending machine could be configured to not accept any coin, but only a very specific and unique one, which is used as a key, and will disappear deep in the bowels of the machine, never to be retrieved by any simple means.



    In case you wonder, vending machines have been around since ancient times, so it wouldn't be anachronistic.






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      I went looking, fascinating stuff! Apparently the first recorded vending machine accepted coins and dispensed holy water...2000+ years ago.
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      There are public toilets where you open the door with a coin. You don't get it back..
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    Mechanic solution is that key is used up in opening the door. E.g. key is actually a shaft that pushes the latch to open position, and gets permanently wedged in the mechanism. But this does not explain random appearene of doors or keys.



    A magic solution is spirits. Locks are hungry spirits that need "food", and keys are the spirit food, which appears randomly in the world. Lock spirits are lazy, or very slow, so rather than look for their food, they hold the door hostage until somebody brings them the food.






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      In computing we call such "keys" names like:




      • One Time Password (OTP)

      • Access tokens

      • Secrets (such as those exchanged in HTTPS connections)

      • Keys. Literally. Such as a license key, which activates a license only once.

      • Lots of four letter words, when we need one but have forgot them or have no way to get them.


      You could name them tokens, or secrets, or just keys anyway and by the time a player/reader has seen it in action once or twice they will have figured them out. The physical representation of the objects you use is just a detail; Much like portkeys in Harry Potter's world, you can use anything, restrained only by your choices as the world builder.



      If you go with "key" and want to qualify it in such a way as to differentiate from a regular, everyday key, call it a "magical key", "mana key", "ether key" or something like that, and be done with it.






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        All the doors are locked, and you don't have a key. You don't even know how to pick locks! But what you do have is a snap gun that can open any lock by force.



        Recently, though, there's been a rash of crime using snap guns, and the government is trying to cut down on it. So all snap guns available to those outside the police and military have fragile and temperamental parts. Yours is particularly bad, and you have to replace the lever or the spring between each use.






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          The key is a special liquid or powder that is poured or splashed onto the door, or poured into an opening of the door.



          The door then dissolves or disappears, using the liquid/powder component in the process. Since the door has dissolved, it stays open.



          The liquid could be a variety of special substances that would react with the door to cause its dissolution. The liquid could range from easily available, to incredibly difficult, and could force someone to search in a specific area (like a black dragons cave). For example




          • There are many different types of acids that literally melt things. You could use scientific acids (hydrochloric, sulfuric, etc), or something a little more fantastical like the acid from a black dragon's breath weapon.

          • If the doors were constructed of something like salt of sugar, then almost any liquid would cause them to dissolve.

          • The liquid could contain microorganisms (bacteria for example) that eat away at the material of the door. Similar to the extraterrestrial bacteria in The Andromeda Strain.

          • In a sci-fi setting, the liquid could be nanobots that eat the door or convert it to a different shape.

          • Thermite makes a very good door opening agent. The components of the door could cause an exothermic reaction, igniting the thermite, and melting the door.

          • Salt or sugar, or some powdery concoction, could cause the door to melt when applied. In Supernatural, we know that salt affects the demonic and supernatural, so if the door is made with demon flesh, it would surely melt when salt or saltwater (aka holy water) is applied to it.






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            The door, or at least the keyhole, is made with Litium-ion, or a similar substance that burns when exposed to air. Or maybe just ignited with the key.



            They keys are specially shaped to fit the keyhole, puncture a barrier, and then the door bursts into flames. When the fire is done, the door is permanently opened.



            The keys, being mass produced in the same factory or by the same keymaker, are all the same, and only have one purpose. Since the door immediately starts shooting flames out of the keyhole, the key is consumed in the fire.






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            • sounds like an interesting variation for explosive variant with explosive (or in this case self-igniting chemical) being stored in the door itself
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            A key could be an intricate coin. To manufacture such a coin requires expensive metals and precise tools. The design should be complex enough that you couldn't simply use a mold or die to smelt a coin into the correct shape.



            The door has a coin operated locking mechanism. Incorrect coins fall through and come out the bottom. Only coins with the perfect pattern of bumps and holes will fall into the correct place, completing the mechanism and opening the lock.



            For added effect, make the door look like a giant gumball machine. 😁






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            • Of course I only saw @vsz's answer after posting this. 😅
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            What you describe sounds like a kind of single-use skeleton key. This could be justified by having the "key" contain some active component that can open any lock, but expires when used.



            In magical settings, this might be a Scroll/Wand of Unlocking; in scientific settings it could be some nanotech (or bio-engineered) "living lockpick" that permanently molds itself to the lock.






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              1. A "door" is a chunk of stuff which occludes passage.


              2. A key is an explosive, like a stick of dynamite. It could be in the shape of a key which would be cute.



              Using the key blows a hole in the door. You can use a key once, because after that it is blown up.



              Once there is a hole in the door you can walk through. You might need to stoop. The hole will not close by itself.



              Any key will work on any door. And on other things too, if you want.



              Using a key might involve lighting a fuse, possibly from your lit cigar. Running away is optional but encouraged.



              Doors can appear on their own. For example, a big tree might qualify as a "door" if it were in your way. A rockslide could be a door. A large animal, alive or dead, might also be considered a "door". The door to your favorite pub that they have pushed you thru and locked behind you would also qualify as a door, the bastards. Fortunately you have a lit cigar and rare locksmithing talents at the ready.






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              • 27




                This is is so simple and fits so perfectly i don't understand how it was not obvious to me. Thanks you very much
                – MadCake
                Nov 7 at 20:48






              • 4




                With obvious precedent in Legend of Zelda (back to the original) for anyone who missed it. ;-)
                – R..
                Nov 8 at 2:31






              • 6




                You might could call the key item a "way-clearer" to get away from the key imagery.
                – miltonaut
                Nov 8 at 2:39






              • 2




                Related: whales as doors.
                – Stephan Kolassa
                Nov 8 at 9:35






              • 14




                "Dwarf master-key" Also qualifies
                – Oxy
                Nov 8 at 11:23















              up vote
              131
              down vote



              accepted











              1. A "door" is a chunk of stuff which occludes passage.


              2. A key is an explosive, like a stick of dynamite. It could be in the shape of a key which would be cute.



              Using the key blows a hole in the door. You can use a key once, because after that it is blown up.



              Once there is a hole in the door you can walk through. You might need to stoop. The hole will not close by itself.



              Any key will work on any door. And on other things too, if you want.



              Using a key might involve lighting a fuse, possibly from your lit cigar. Running away is optional but encouraged.



              Doors can appear on their own. For example, a big tree might qualify as a "door" if it were in your way. A rockslide could be a door. A large animal, alive or dead, might also be considered a "door". The door to your favorite pub that they have pushed you thru and locked behind you would also qualify as a door, the bastards. Fortunately you have a lit cigar and rare locksmithing talents at the ready.






              share|improve this answer

















              • 27




                This is is so simple and fits so perfectly i don't understand how it was not obvious to me. Thanks you very much
                – MadCake
                Nov 7 at 20:48






              • 4




                With obvious precedent in Legend of Zelda (back to the original) for anyone who missed it. ;-)
                – R..
                Nov 8 at 2:31






              • 6




                You might could call the key item a "way-clearer" to get away from the key imagery.
                – miltonaut
                Nov 8 at 2:39






              • 2




                Related: whales as doors.
                – Stephan Kolassa
                Nov 8 at 9:35






              • 14




                "Dwarf master-key" Also qualifies
                – Oxy
                Nov 8 at 11:23













              up vote
              131
              down vote



              accepted







              up vote
              131
              down vote



              accepted







              1. A "door" is a chunk of stuff which occludes passage.


              2. A key is an explosive, like a stick of dynamite. It could be in the shape of a key which would be cute.



              Using the key blows a hole in the door. You can use a key once, because after that it is blown up.



              Once there is a hole in the door you can walk through. You might need to stoop. The hole will not close by itself.



              Any key will work on any door. And on other things too, if you want.



              Using a key might involve lighting a fuse, possibly from your lit cigar. Running away is optional but encouraged.



              Doors can appear on their own. For example, a big tree might qualify as a "door" if it were in your way. A rockslide could be a door. A large animal, alive or dead, might also be considered a "door". The door to your favorite pub that they have pushed you thru and locked behind you would also qualify as a door, the bastards. Fortunately you have a lit cigar and rare locksmithing talents at the ready.






              share|improve this answer













              1. A "door" is a chunk of stuff which occludes passage.


              2. A key is an explosive, like a stick of dynamite. It could be in the shape of a key which would be cute.



              Using the key blows a hole in the door. You can use a key once, because after that it is blown up.



              Once there is a hole in the door you can walk through. You might need to stoop. The hole will not close by itself.



              Any key will work on any door. And on other things too, if you want.



              Using a key might involve lighting a fuse, possibly from your lit cigar. Running away is optional but encouraged.



              Doors can appear on their own. For example, a big tree might qualify as a "door" if it were in your way. A rockslide could be a door. A large animal, alive or dead, might also be considered a "door". The door to your favorite pub that they have pushed you thru and locked behind you would also qualify as a door, the bastards. Fortunately you have a lit cigar and rare locksmithing talents at the ready.







              share|improve this answer












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              answered Nov 7 at 20:20









              Willk

              97.5k25188409




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              • 27




                This is is so simple and fits so perfectly i don't understand how it was not obvious to me. Thanks you very much
                – MadCake
                Nov 7 at 20:48






              • 4




                With obvious precedent in Legend of Zelda (back to the original) for anyone who missed it. ;-)
                – R..
                Nov 8 at 2:31






              • 6




                You might could call the key item a "way-clearer" to get away from the key imagery.
                – miltonaut
                Nov 8 at 2:39






              • 2




                Related: whales as doors.
                – Stephan Kolassa
                Nov 8 at 9:35






              • 14




                "Dwarf master-key" Also qualifies
                – Oxy
                Nov 8 at 11:23














              • 27




                This is is so simple and fits so perfectly i don't understand how it was not obvious to me. Thanks you very much
                – MadCake
                Nov 7 at 20:48






              • 4




                With obvious precedent in Legend of Zelda (back to the original) for anyone who missed it. ;-)
                – R..
                Nov 8 at 2:31






              • 6




                You might could call the key item a "way-clearer" to get away from the key imagery.
                – miltonaut
                Nov 8 at 2:39






              • 2




                Related: whales as doors.
                – Stephan Kolassa
                Nov 8 at 9:35






              • 14




                "Dwarf master-key" Also qualifies
                – Oxy
                Nov 8 at 11:23








              27




              27




              This is is so simple and fits so perfectly i don't understand how it was not obvious to me. Thanks you very much
              – MadCake
              Nov 7 at 20:48




              This is is so simple and fits so perfectly i don't understand how it was not obvious to me. Thanks you very much
              – MadCake
              Nov 7 at 20:48




              4




              4




              With obvious precedent in Legend of Zelda (back to the original) for anyone who missed it. ;-)
              – R..
              Nov 8 at 2:31




              With obvious precedent in Legend of Zelda (back to the original) for anyone who missed it. ;-)
              – R..
              Nov 8 at 2:31




              6




              6




              You might could call the key item a "way-clearer" to get away from the key imagery.
              – miltonaut
              Nov 8 at 2:39




              You might could call the key item a "way-clearer" to get away from the key imagery.
              – miltonaut
              Nov 8 at 2:39




              2




              2




              Related: whales as doors.
              – Stephan Kolassa
              Nov 8 at 9:35




              Related: whales as doors.
              – Stephan Kolassa
              Nov 8 at 9:35




              14




              14




              "Dwarf master-key" Also qualifies
              – Oxy
              Nov 8 at 11:23




              "Dwarf master-key" Also qualifies
              – Oxy
              Nov 8 at 11:23










              up vote
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              down vote













              Secrets secrets (in this case) are so fun!



              Create a shadow organization that deals in information. Your “doors” are members of the organization that guard entrances, and your “keys” are interesting secrets.



              Requirements:




              Any "door" can be opened with any "key"




              Any member of this organization will accept any valuable secret you have.




              Once opened the "door" stays open




              The guard to an area recognizes your contribution, and always allows you through (after paying, of course).




              It must be possible to purposefully construct a "door.”




              Naturally, this organization can be hired out given the appropriate payment.




              The "key" can only be used once.




              Once the organization is aware of a secret, it is no longer a secret to them.



              Desired but not required:




              The "doors" can appear randomly (like vines growing over a normal door)




              The motivations of this organizations can seem random to the player.




              The "keys" should be rare but it should not be obvious where to find one (for example if only rich people could possess them, it would make no sense to search for a key in a poor man's house)




              This should certainly be true about meaningful secrets.






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              • 7




                Alas it does not fit my setting, but this is very creative
                – MadCake
                Nov 7 at 22:20















              up vote
              33
              down vote













              Secrets secrets (in this case) are so fun!



              Create a shadow organization that deals in information. Your “doors” are members of the organization that guard entrances, and your “keys” are interesting secrets.



              Requirements:




              Any "door" can be opened with any "key"




              Any member of this organization will accept any valuable secret you have.




              Once opened the "door" stays open




              The guard to an area recognizes your contribution, and always allows you through (after paying, of course).




              It must be possible to purposefully construct a "door.”




              Naturally, this organization can be hired out given the appropriate payment.




              The "key" can only be used once.




              Once the organization is aware of a secret, it is no longer a secret to them.



              Desired but not required:




              The "doors" can appear randomly (like vines growing over a normal door)




              The motivations of this organizations can seem random to the player.




              The "keys" should be rare but it should not be obvious where to find one (for example if only rich people could possess them, it would make no sense to search for a key in a poor man's house)




              This should certainly be true about meaningful secrets.






              share|improve this answer



















              • 7




                Alas it does not fit my setting, but this is very creative
                – MadCake
                Nov 7 at 22:20













              up vote
              33
              down vote










              up vote
              33
              down vote









              Secrets secrets (in this case) are so fun!



              Create a shadow organization that deals in information. Your “doors” are members of the organization that guard entrances, and your “keys” are interesting secrets.



              Requirements:




              Any "door" can be opened with any "key"




              Any member of this organization will accept any valuable secret you have.




              Once opened the "door" stays open




              The guard to an area recognizes your contribution, and always allows you through (after paying, of course).




              It must be possible to purposefully construct a "door.”




              Naturally, this organization can be hired out given the appropriate payment.




              The "key" can only be used once.




              Once the organization is aware of a secret, it is no longer a secret to them.



              Desired but not required:




              The "doors" can appear randomly (like vines growing over a normal door)




              The motivations of this organizations can seem random to the player.




              The "keys" should be rare but it should not be obvious where to find one (for example if only rich people could possess them, it would make no sense to search for a key in a poor man's house)




              This should certainly be true about meaningful secrets.






              share|improve this answer














              Secrets secrets (in this case) are so fun!



              Create a shadow organization that deals in information. Your “doors” are members of the organization that guard entrances, and your “keys” are interesting secrets.



              Requirements:




              Any "door" can be opened with any "key"




              Any member of this organization will accept any valuable secret you have.




              Once opened the "door" stays open




              The guard to an area recognizes your contribution, and always allows you through (after paying, of course).




              It must be possible to purposefully construct a "door.”




              Naturally, this organization can be hired out given the appropriate payment.




              The "key" can only be used once.




              Once the organization is aware of a secret, it is no longer a secret to them.



              Desired but not required:




              The "doors" can appear randomly (like vines growing over a normal door)




              The motivations of this organizations can seem random to the player.




              The "keys" should be rare but it should not be obvious where to find one (for example if only rich people could possess them, it would make no sense to search for a key in a poor man's house)




              This should certainly be true about meaningful secrets.







              share|improve this answer














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              edited Nov 7 at 23:51

























              answered Nov 7 at 22:03









              Santana Afton

              43817




              43817








              • 7




                Alas it does not fit my setting, but this is very creative
                – MadCake
                Nov 7 at 22:20














              • 7




                Alas it does not fit my setting, but this is very creative
                – MadCake
                Nov 7 at 22:20








              7




              7




              Alas it does not fit my setting, but this is very creative
              – MadCake
              Nov 7 at 22:20




              Alas it does not fit my setting, but this is very creative
              – MadCake
              Nov 7 at 22:20










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              • A sacrifice or votive offering. Burn a pinch of incense, and the portal opens.

              • A rusty door and a can of WD-40. The door is sticky, and requires lubricant. Due to the environmental conditions, the effect won't last.

              • There is a spell on the door, but certain folk remedies like cold iron horseshoes will dispell it for a time. The horseshoe must be nailed to the door, or perhaps buried under it.






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              • 1




                Combining your second suggestion with the "vines" example in the question to fit the "appear randomly/spontaneously" part: The "door" is a plant or fungus that grows over the door, and the "key" is a form of weedkiller - perhaps a magic sort, such as an enchanted nail that you drive into the main trunk, which would allow puzzles where you can see the door, but need to locate the "lock".
                – Chronocidal
                Nov 8 at 8:45















              up vote
              13
              down vote














              • A sacrifice or votive offering. Burn a pinch of incense, and the portal opens.

              • A rusty door and a can of WD-40. The door is sticky, and requires lubricant. Due to the environmental conditions, the effect won't last.

              • There is a spell on the door, but certain folk remedies like cold iron horseshoes will dispell it for a time. The horseshoe must be nailed to the door, or perhaps buried under it.






              share|improve this answer

















              • 1




                Combining your second suggestion with the "vines" example in the question to fit the "appear randomly/spontaneously" part: The "door" is a plant or fungus that grows over the door, and the "key" is a form of weedkiller - perhaps a magic sort, such as an enchanted nail that you drive into the main trunk, which would allow puzzles where you can see the door, but need to locate the "lock".
                – Chronocidal
                Nov 8 at 8:45













              up vote
              13
              down vote










              up vote
              13
              down vote










              • A sacrifice or votive offering. Burn a pinch of incense, and the portal opens.

              • A rusty door and a can of WD-40. The door is sticky, and requires lubricant. Due to the environmental conditions, the effect won't last.

              • There is a spell on the door, but certain folk remedies like cold iron horseshoes will dispell it for a time. The horseshoe must be nailed to the door, or perhaps buried under it.






              share|improve this answer













              • A sacrifice or votive offering. Burn a pinch of incense, and the portal opens.

              • A rusty door and a can of WD-40. The door is sticky, and requires lubricant. Due to the environmental conditions, the effect won't last.

              • There is a spell on the door, but certain folk remedies like cold iron horseshoes will dispell it for a time. The horseshoe must be nailed to the door, or perhaps buried under it.







              share|improve this answer












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              answered Nov 7 at 20:32









              o.m.

              57k682190




              57k682190








              • 1




                Combining your second suggestion with the "vines" example in the question to fit the "appear randomly/spontaneously" part: The "door" is a plant or fungus that grows over the door, and the "key" is a form of weedkiller - perhaps a magic sort, such as an enchanted nail that you drive into the main trunk, which would allow puzzles where you can see the door, but need to locate the "lock".
                – Chronocidal
                Nov 8 at 8:45














              • 1




                Combining your second suggestion with the "vines" example in the question to fit the "appear randomly/spontaneously" part: The "door" is a plant or fungus that grows over the door, and the "key" is a form of weedkiller - perhaps a magic sort, such as an enchanted nail that you drive into the main trunk, which would allow puzzles where you can see the door, but need to locate the "lock".
                – Chronocidal
                Nov 8 at 8:45








              1




              1




              Combining your second suggestion with the "vines" example in the question to fit the "appear randomly/spontaneously" part: The "door" is a plant or fungus that grows over the door, and the "key" is a form of weedkiller - perhaps a magic sort, such as an enchanted nail that you drive into the main trunk, which would allow puzzles where you can see the door, but need to locate the "lock".
              – Chronocidal
              Nov 8 at 8:45




              Combining your second suggestion with the "vines" example in the question to fit the "appear randomly/spontaneously" part: The "door" is a plant or fungus that grows over the door, and the "key" is a form of weedkiller - perhaps a magic sort, such as an enchanted nail that you drive into the main trunk, which would allow puzzles where you can see the door, but need to locate the "lock".
              – Chronocidal
              Nov 8 at 8:45










              up vote
              12
              down vote













              The "doors" are limbs of a massive interdimensional eldritch being. A magic-user can bind them to our reality and coalesce their power into some sort of token, and those tokens can then be used to banish it back. For bonus points, this being could have some relevance to the game's overall plot (or it could be a Giant Space Flea From Nowhere bonus boss).



              Requirements:




              Any "door" can be opened with any "key"




              The tokens are interchangeable; they all contain the same magic.




              Once opened the "door" stays open




              Unless someone binds it again, at least.




              It must be possible to purposefully construct a "door".




              With magic.




              The "key" can only be used once.




              Using a token discharges its magic and destroys it.




              Creating a "door" may require the use of magic but opening a "door" with a "key" should not require magic abilities




              Anyone can use the tokens to banish it, all it requires is physical contact.




              "Doors" are not portals. You can not teleport to a different location by walking through a "door".




              Banishing it just removes an obstacle, you're left with an ordinary opening.



              Desired but not required:




              The "doors" can appear randomly (like vines growing over a normal door)




              Perhaps it can occasionally manifest itself into our reality without assistance? Though that would still require explaining where the tokens come from. Maybe the token manifests nearby in the form of a shiny object, which some critter takes away and hides.




              the "keys" should be rare but it should not be obvious where to find one (for example if only rich people could possess them, it would make no sense to search for a key in a poor man's house)




              Tokens would be wherever the magic-users decide to put them, so that isn't a problem unless they all have consistent habits (or see above).






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                up vote
                12
                down vote













                The "doors" are limbs of a massive interdimensional eldritch being. A magic-user can bind them to our reality and coalesce their power into some sort of token, and those tokens can then be used to banish it back. For bonus points, this being could have some relevance to the game's overall plot (or it could be a Giant Space Flea From Nowhere bonus boss).



                Requirements:




                Any "door" can be opened with any "key"




                The tokens are interchangeable; they all contain the same magic.




                Once opened the "door" stays open




                Unless someone binds it again, at least.




                It must be possible to purposefully construct a "door".




                With magic.




                The "key" can only be used once.




                Using a token discharges its magic and destroys it.




                Creating a "door" may require the use of magic but opening a "door" with a "key" should not require magic abilities




                Anyone can use the tokens to banish it, all it requires is physical contact.




                "Doors" are not portals. You can not teleport to a different location by walking through a "door".




                Banishing it just removes an obstacle, you're left with an ordinary opening.



                Desired but not required:




                The "doors" can appear randomly (like vines growing over a normal door)




                Perhaps it can occasionally manifest itself into our reality without assistance? Though that would still require explaining where the tokens come from. Maybe the token manifests nearby in the form of a shiny object, which some critter takes away and hides.




                the "keys" should be rare but it should not be obvious where to find one (for example if only rich people could possess them, it would make no sense to search for a key in a poor man's house)




                Tokens would be wherever the magic-users decide to put them, so that isn't a problem unless they all have consistent habits (or see above).






                share|improve this answer























                  up vote
                  12
                  down vote










                  up vote
                  12
                  down vote









                  The "doors" are limbs of a massive interdimensional eldritch being. A magic-user can bind them to our reality and coalesce their power into some sort of token, and those tokens can then be used to banish it back. For bonus points, this being could have some relevance to the game's overall plot (or it could be a Giant Space Flea From Nowhere bonus boss).



                  Requirements:




                  Any "door" can be opened with any "key"




                  The tokens are interchangeable; they all contain the same magic.




                  Once opened the "door" stays open




                  Unless someone binds it again, at least.




                  It must be possible to purposefully construct a "door".




                  With magic.




                  The "key" can only be used once.




                  Using a token discharges its magic and destroys it.




                  Creating a "door" may require the use of magic but opening a "door" with a "key" should not require magic abilities




                  Anyone can use the tokens to banish it, all it requires is physical contact.




                  "Doors" are not portals. You can not teleport to a different location by walking through a "door".




                  Banishing it just removes an obstacle, you're left with an ordinary opening.



                  Desired but not required:




                  The "doors" can appear randomly (like vines growing over a normal door)




                  Perhaps it can occasionally manifest itself into our reality without assistance? Though that would still require explaining where the tokens come from. Maybe the token manifests nearby in the form of a shiny object, which some critter takes away and hides.




                  the "keys" should be rare but it should not be obvious where to find one (for example if only rich people could possess them, it would make no sense to search for a key in a poor man's house)




                  Tokens would be wherever the magic-users decide to put them, so that isn't a problem unless they all have consistent habits (or see above).






                  share|improve this answer












                  The "doors" are limbs of a massive interdimensional eldritch being. A magic-user can bind them to our reality and coalesce their power into some sort of token, and those tokens can then be used to banish it back. For bonus points, this being could have some relevance to the game's overall plot (or it could be a Giant Space Flea From Nowhere bonus boss).



                  Requirements:




                  Any "door" can be opened with any "key"




                  The tokens are interchangeable; they all contain the same magic.




                  Once opened the "door" stays open




                  Unless someone binds it again, at least.




                  It must be possible to purposefully construct a "door".




                  With magic.




                  The "key" can only be used once.




                  Using a token discharges its magic and destroys it.




                  Creating a "door" may require the use of magic but opening a "door" with a "key" should not require magic abilities




                  Anyone can use the tokens to banish it, all it requires is physical contact.




                  "Doors" are not portals. You can not teleport to a different location by walking through a "door".




                  Banishing it just removes an obstacle, you're left with an ordinary opening.



                  Desired but not required:




                  The "doors" can appear randomly (like vines growing over a normal door)




                  Perhaps it can occasionally manifest itself into our reality without assistance? Though that would still require explaining where the tokens come from. Maybe the token manifests nearby in the form of a shiny object, which some critter takes away and hides.




                  the "keys" should be rare but it should not be obvious where to find one (for example if only rich people could possess them, it would make no sense to search for a key in a poor man's house)




                  Tokens would be wherever the magic-users decide to put them, so that isn't a problem unless they all have consistent habits (or see above).







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                  answered Nov 8 at 0:28









                  John Montgomery

                  24115




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                      up vote
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                      down vote













                      Recently the local area has become infested with Barhools! Barhools are large bearlike creatures that spend most of their time sleeping. They're nearly indestructible and immune to all magic, but fortunately they're pretty harmless - except when they first wake up, whereapon they immediately seize and devour the nearest creature before wandering off.



                      Fortunately for you, Barhools are rather partial to Foostirs - large grublike creatures which can be found just about everywhere. They're in rather short supply at the moment due to Barhool predation, but I'm sure that you can find some hidden in out of the way places, right?



                      (More generally, any sort of bribe for a group of people or creatures works well for this sort of thing.)






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                      • 1




                        How do you explain that no Barhool will ever sleep in front of a door where previously a Barhool has been fed away?
                        – Geliormth
                        Nov 8 at 7:50






                      • 1




                        @Geliormth Barhools are very clean, and wouldn't sleep on a leftover carcass, either fresh or rotten. It will disappear completely in months, but this could be longer than the game's in-game timescale, or a respawn months later could be acceptable.
                        – Emilio M Bumachar
                        Nov 8 at 8:37






                      • 1




                        @Geliormth Barhools are territorial, and won't sleep in spots where they can smell that one was sleeping previously.
                        – Arcanist Lupus
                        Nov 8 at 13:57















                      up vote
                      6
                      down vote













                      Recently the local area has become infested with Barhools! Barhools are large bearlike creatures that spend most of their time sleeping. They're nearly indestructible and immune to all magic, but fortunately they're pretty harmless - except when they first wake up, whereapon they immediately seize and devour the nearest creature before wandering off.



                      Fortunately for you, Barhools are rather partial to Foostirs - large grublike creatures which can be found just about everywhere. They're in rather short supply at the moment due to Barhool predation, but I'm sure that you can find some hidden in out of the way places, right?



                      (More generally, any sort of bribe for a group of people or creatures works well for this sort of thing.)






                      share|improve this answer

















                      • 1




                        How do you explain that no Barhool will ever sleep in front of a door where previously a Barhool has been fed away?
                        – Geliormth
                        Nov 8 at 7:50






                      • 1




                        @Geliormth Barhools are very clean, and wouldn't sleep on a leftover carcass, either fresh or rotten. It will disappear completely in months, but this could be longer than the game's in-game timescale, or a respawn months later could be acceptable.
                        – Emilio M Bumachar
                        Nov 8 at 8:37






                      • 1




                        @Geliormth Barhools are territorial, and won't sleep in spots where they can smell that one was sleeping previously.
                        – Arcanist Lupus
                        Nov 8 at 13:57













                      up vote
                      6
                      down vote










                      up vote
                      6
                      down vote









                      Recently the local area has become infested with Barhools! Barhools are large bearlike creatures that spend most of their time sleeping. They're nearly indestructible and immune to all magic, but fortunately they're pretty harmless - except when they first wake up, whereapon they immediately seize and devour the nearest creature before wandering off.



                      Fortunately for you, Barhools are rather partial to Foostirs - large grublike creatures which can be found just about everywhere. They're in rather short supply at the moment due to Barhool predation, but I'm sure that you can find some hidden in out of the way places, right?



                      (More generally, any sort of bribe for a group of people or creatures works well for this sort of thing.)






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                      Recently the local area has become infested with Barhools! Barhools are large bearlike creatures that spend most of their time sleeping. They're nearly indestructible and immune to all magic, but fortunately they're pretty harmless - except when they first wake up, whereapon they immediately seize and devour the nearest creature before wandering off.



                      Fortunately for you, Barhools are rather partial to Foostirs - large grublike creatures which can be found just about everywhere. They're in rather short supply at the moment due to Barhool predation, but I'm sure that you can find some hidden in out of the way places, right?



                      (More generally, any sort of bribe for a group of people or creatures works well for this sort of thing.)







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                      Arcanist Lupus

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                        How do you explain that no Barhool will ever sleep in front of a door where previously a Barhool has been fed away?
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                        @Geliormth Barhools are very clean, and wouldn't sleep on a leftover carcass, either fresh or rotten. It will disappear completely in months, but this could be longer than the game's in-game timescale, or a respawn months later could be acceptable.
                        – Emilio M Bumachar
                        Nov 8 at 8:37






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                        @Geliormth Barhools are territorial, and won't sleep in spots where they can smell that one was sleeping previously.
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                        How do you explain that no Barhool will ever sleep in front of a door where previously a Barhool has been fed away?
                        – Geliormth
                        Nov 8 at 7:50






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                        @Geliormth Barhools are very clean, and wouldn't sleep on a leftover carcass, either fresh or rotten. It will disappear completely in months, but this could be longer than the game's in-game timescale, or a respawn months later could be acceptable.
                        – Emilio M Bumachar
                        Nov 8 at 8:37






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                        @Geliormth Barhools are territorial, and won't sleep in spots where they can smell that one was sleeping previously.
                        – Arcanist Lupus
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                      How do you explain that no Barhool will ever sleep in front of a door where previously a Barhool has been fed away?
                      – Geliormth
                      Nov 8 at 7:50




                      How do you explain that no Barhool will ever sleep in front of a door where previously a Barhool has been fed away?
                      – Geliormth
                      Nov 8 at 7:50




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                      @Geliormth Barhools are very clean, and wouldn't sleep on a leftover carcass, either fresh or rotten. It will disappear completely in months, but this could be longer than the game's in-game timescale, or a respawn months later could be acceptable.
                      – Emilio M Bumachar
                      Nov 8 at 8:37




                      @Geliormth Barhools are very clean, and wouldn't sleep on a leftover carcass, either fresh or rotten. It will disappear completely in months, but this could be longer than the game's in-game timescale, or a respawn months later could be acceptable.
                      – Emilio M Bumachar
                      Nov 8 at 8:37




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                      @Geliormth Barhools are territorial, and won't sleep in spots where they can smell that one was sleeping previously.
                      – Arcanist Lupus
                      Nov 8 at 13:57




                      @Geliormth Barhools are territorial, and won't sleep in spots where they can smell that one was sleeping previously.
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                      A simple mechanical solution would work just like a vending machine. That vending machine could be configured to not accept any coin, but only a very specific and unique one, which is used as a key, and will disappear deep in the bowels of the machine, never to be retrieved by any simple means.



                      In case you wonder, vending machines have been around since ancient times, so it wouldn't be anachronistic.






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                        I went looking, fascinating stuff! Apparently the first recorded vending machine accepted coins and dispensed holy water...2000+ years ago.
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                        There are public toilets where you open the door with a coin. You don't get it back..
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                      A simple mechanical solution would work just like a vending machine. That vending machine could be configured to not accept any coin, but only a very specific and unique one, which is used as a key, and will disappear deep in the bowels of the machine, never to be retrieved by any simple means.



                      In case you wonder, vending machines have been around since ancient times, so it wouldn't be anachronistic.






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                        I went looking, fascinating stuff! Apparently the first recorded vending machine accepted coins and dispensed holy water...2000+ years ago.
                        – Ruadhan
                        Nov 8 at 11:32






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                        There are public toilets where you open the door with a coin. You don't get it back..
                        – StessenJ
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                      A simple mechanical solution would work just like a vending machine. That vending machine could be configured to not accept any coin, but only a very specific and unique one, which is used as a key, and will disappear deep in the bowels of the machine, never to be retrieved by any simple means.



                      In case you wonder, vending machines have been around since ancient times, so it wouldn't be anachronistic.






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                      A simple mechanical solution would work just like a vending machine. That vending machine could be configured to not accept any coin, but only a very specific and unique one, which is used as a key, and will disappear deep in the bowels of the machine, never to be retrieved by any simple means.



                      In case you wonder, vending machines have been around since ancient times, so it wouldn't be anachronistic.







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                      answered Nov 8 at 7:37









                      vsz

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                        I went looking, fascinating stuff! Apparently the first recorded vending machine accepted coins and dispensed holy water...2000+ years ago.
                        – Ruadhan
                        Nov 8 at 11:32






                      • 1




                        There are public toilets where you open the door with a coin. You don't get it back..
                        – StessenJ
                        Nov 9 at 13:56














                      • 2




                        I went looking, fascinating stuff! Apparently the first recorded vending machine accepted coins and dispensed holy water...2000+ years ago.
                        – Ruadhan
                        Nov 8 at 11:32






                      • 1




                        There are public toilets where you open the door with a coin. You don't get it back..
                        – StessenJ
                        Nov 9 at 13:56








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                      I went looking, fascinating stuff! Apparently the first recorded vending machine accepted coins and dispensed holy water...2000+ years ago.
                      – Ruadhan
                      Nov 8 at 11:32




                      I went looking, fascinating stuff! Apparently the first recorded vending machine accepted coins and dispensed holy water...2000+ years ago.
                      – Ruadhan
                      Nov 8 at 11:32




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                      There are public toilets where you open the door with a coin. You don't get it back..
                      – StessenJ
                      Nov 9 at 13:56




                      There are public toilets where you open the door with a coin. You don't get it back..
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                      Nov 9 at 13:56










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                      Mechanic solution is that key is used up in opening the door. E.g. key is actually a shaft that pushes the latch to open position, and gets permanently wedged in the mechanism. But this does not explain random appearene of doors or keys.



                      A magic solution is spirits. Locks are hungry spirits that need "food", and keys are the spirit food, which appears randomly in the world. Lock spirits are lazy, or very slow, so rather than look for their food, they hold the door hostage until somebody brings them the food.






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                        Mechanic solution is that key is used up in opening the door. E.g. key is actually a shaft that pushes the latch to open position, and gets permanently wedged in the mechanism. But this does not explain random appearene of doors or keys.



                        A magic solution is spirits. Locks are hungry spirits that need "food", and keys are the spirit food, which appears randomly in the world. Lock spirits are lazy, or very slow, so rather than look for their food, they hold the door hostage until somebody brings them the food.






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                          Mechanic solution is that key is used up in opening the door. E.g. key is actually a shaft that pushes the latch to open position, and gets permanently wedged in the mechanism. But this does not explain random appearene of doors or keys.



                          A magic solution is spirits. Locks are hungry spirits that need "food", and keys are the spirit food, which appears randomly in the world. Lock spirits are lazy, or very slow, so rather than look for their food, they hold the door hostage until somebody brings them the food.






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                          Mechanic solution is that key is used up in opening the door. E.g. key is actually a shaft that pushes the latch to open position, and gets permanently wedged in the mechanism. But this does not explain random appearene of doors or keys.



                          A magic solution is spirits. Locks are hungry spirits that need "food", and keys are the spirit food, which appears randomly in the world. Lock spirits are lazy, or very slow, so rather than look for their food, they hold the door hostage until somebody brings them the food.







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                              In computing we call such "keys" names like:




                              • One Time Password (OTP)

                              • Access tokens

                              • Secrets (such as those exchanged in HTTPS connections)

                              • Keys. Literally. Such as a license key, which activates a license only once.

                              • Lots of four letter words, when we need one but have forgot them or have no way to get them.


                              You could name them tokens, or secrets, or just keys anyway and by the time a player/reader has seen it in action once or twice they will have figured them out. The physical representation of the objects you use is just a detail; Much like portkeys in Harry Potter's world, you can use anything, restrained only by your choices as the world builder.



                              If you go with "key" and want to qualify it in such a way as to differentiate from a regular, everyday key, call it a "magical key", "mana key", "ether key" or something like that, and be done with it.






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                                In computing we call such "keys" names like:




                                • One Time Password (OTP)

                                • Access tokens

                                • Secrets (such as those exchanged in HTTPS connections)

                                • Keys. Literally. Such as a license key, which activates a license only once.

                                • Lots of four letter words, when we need one but have forgot them or have no way to get them.


                                You could name them tokens, or secrets, or just keys anyway and by the time a player/reader has seen it in action once or twice they will have figured them out. The physical representation of the objects you use is just a detail; Much like portkeys in Harry Potter's world, you can use anything, restrained only by your choices as the world builder.



                                If you go with "key" and want to qualify it in such a way as to differentiate from a regular, everyday key, call it a "magical key", "mana key", "ether key" or something like that, and be done with it.






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                                  up vote
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                                  In computing we call such "keys" names like:




                                  • One Time Password (OTP)

                                  • Access tokens

                                  • Secrets (such as those exchanged in HTTPS connections)

                                  • Keys. Literally. Such as a license key, which activates a license only once.

                                  • Lots of four letter words, when we need one but have forgot them or have no way to get them.


                                  You could name them tokens, or secrets, or just keys anyway and by the time a player/reader has seen it in action once or twice they will have figured them out. The physical representation of the objects you use is just a detail; Much like portkeys in Harry Potter's world, you can use anything, restrained only by your choices as the world builder.



                                  If you go with "key" and want to qualify it in such a way as to differentiate from a regular, everyday key, call it a "magical key", "mana key", "ether key" or something like that, and be done with it.






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                                  In computing we call such "keys" names like:




                                  • One Time Password (OTP)

                                  • Access tokens

                                  • Secrets (such as those exchanged in HTTPS connections)

                                  • Keys. Literally. Such as a license key, which activates a license only once.

                                  • Lots of four letter words, when we need one but have forgot them or have no way to get them.


                                  You could name them tokens, or secrets, or just keys anyway and by the time a player/reader has seen it in action once or twice they will have figured them out. The physical representation of the objects you use is just a detail; Much like portkeys in Harry Potter's world, you can use anything, restrained only by your choices as the world builder.



                                  If you go with "key" and want to qualify it in such a way as to differentiate from a regular, everyday key, call it a "magical key", "mana key", "ether key" or something like that, and be done with it.







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                                      All the doors are locked, and you don't have a key. You don't even know how to pick locks! But what you do have is a snap gun that can open any lock by force.



                                      Recently, though, there's been a rash of crime using snap guns, and the government is trying to cut down on it. So all snap guns available to those outside the police and military have fragile and temperamental parts. Yours is particularly bad, and you have to replace the lever or the spring between each use.






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                                        All the doors are locked, and you don't have a key. You don't even know how to pick locks! But what you do have is a snap gun that can open any lock by force.



                                        Recently, though, there's been a rash of crime using snap guns, and the government is trying to cut down on it. So all snap guns available to those outside the police and military have fragile and temperamental parts. Yours is particularly bad, and you have to replace the lever or the spring between each use.






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                                          All the doors are locked, and you don't have a key. You don't even know how to pick locks! But what you do have is a snap gun that can open any lock by force.



                                          Recently, though, there's been a rash of crime using snap guns, and the government is trying to cut down on it. So all snap guns available to those outside the police and military have fragile and temperamental parts. Yours is particularly bad, and you have to replace the lever or the spring between each use.






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                                          All the doors are locked, and you don't have a key. You don't even know how to pick locks! But what you do have is a snap gun that can open any lock by force.



                                          Recently, though, there's been a rash of crime using snap guns, and the government is trying to cut down on it. So all snap guns available to those outside the police and military have fragile and temperamental parts. Yours is particularly bad, and you have to replace the lever or the spring between each use.







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                                          answered Nov 8 at 2:13









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                                              The key is a special liquid or powder that is poured or splashed onto the door, or poured into an opening of the door.



                                              The door then dissolves or disappears, using the liquid/powder component in the process. Since the door has dissolved, it stays open.



                                              The liquid could be a variety of special substances that would react with the door to cause its dissolution. The liquid could range from easily available, to incredibly difficult, and could force someone to search in a specific area (like a black dragons cave). For example




                                              • There are many different types of acids that literally melt things. You could use scientific acids (hydrochloric, sulfuric, etc), or something a little more fantastical like the acid from a black dragon's breath weapon.

                                              • If the doors were constructed of something like salt of sugar, then almost any liquid would cause them to dissolve.

                                              • The liquid could contain microorganisms (bacteria for example) that eat away at the material of the door. Similar to the extraterrestrial bacteria in The Andromeda Strain.

                                              • In a sci-fi setting, the liquid could be nanobots that eat the door or convert it to a different shape.

                                              • Thermite makes a very good door opening agent. The components of the door could cause an exothermic reaction, igniting the thermite, and melting the door.

                                              • Salt or sugar, or some powdery concoction, could cause the door to melt when applied. In Supernatural, we know that salt affects the demonic and supernatural, so if the door is made with demon flesh, it would surely melt when salt or saltwater (aka holy water) is applied to it.






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                                                The key is a special liquid or powder that is poured or splashed onto the door, or poured into an opening of the door.



                                                The door then dissolves or disappears, using the liquid/powder component in the process. Since the door has dissolved, it stays open.



                                                The liquid could be a variety of special substances that would react with the door to cause its dissolution. The liquid could range from easily available, to incredibly difficult, and could force someone to search in a specific area (like a black dragons cave). For example




                                                • There are many different types of acids that literally melt things. You could use scientific acids (hydrochloric, sulfuric, etc), or something a little more fantastical like the acid from a black dragon's breath weapon.

                                                • If the doors were constructed of something like salt of sugar, then almost any liquid would cause them to dissolve.

                                                • The liquid could contain microorganisms (bacteria for example) that eat away at the material of the door. Similar to the extraterrestrial bacteria in The Andromeda Strain.

                                                • In a sci-fi setting, the liquid could be nanobots that eat the door or convert it to a different shape.

                                                • Thermite makes a very good door opening agent. The components of the door could cause an exothermic reaction, igniting the thermite, and melting the door.

                                                • Salt or sugar, or some powdery concoction, could cause the door to melt when applied. In Supernatural, we know that salt affects the demonic and supernatural, so if the door is made with demon flesh, it would surely melt when salt or saltwater (aka holy water) is applied to it.






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                                                  up vote
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                                                  The key is a special liquid or powder that is poured or splashed onto the door, or poured into an opening of the door.



                                                  The door then dissolves or disappears, using the liquid/powder component in the process. Since the door has dissolved, it stays open.



                                                  The liquid could be a variety of special substances that would react with the door to cause its dissolution. The liquid could range from easily available, to incredibly difficult, and could force someone to search in a specific area (like a black dragons cave). For example




                                                  • There are many different types of acids that literally melt things. You could use scientific acids (hydrochloric, sulfuric, etc), or something a little more fantastical like the acid from a black dragon's breath weapon.

                                                  • If the doors were constructed of something like salt of sugar, then almost any liquid would cause them to dissolve.

                                                  • The liquid could contain microorganisms (bacteria for example) that eat away at the material of the door. Similar to the extraterrestrial bacteria in The Andromeda Strain.

                                                  • In a sci-fi setting, the liquid could be nanobots that eat the door or convert it to a different shape.

                                                  • Thermite makes a very good door opening agent. The components of the door could cause an exothermic reaction, igniting the thermite, and melting the door.

                                                  • Salt or sugar, or some powdery concoction, could cause the door to melt when applied. In Supernatural, we know that salt affects the demonic and supernatural, so if the door is made with demon flesh, it would surely melt when salt or saltwater (aka holy water) is applied to it.






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                                                  The key is a special liquid or powder that is poured or splashed onto the door, or poured into an opening of the door.



                                                  The door then dissolves or disappears, using the liquid/powder component in the process. Since the door has dissolved, it stays open.



                                                  The liquid could be a variety of special substances that would react with the door to cause its dissolution. The liquid could range from easily available, to incredibly difficult, and could force someone to search in a specific area (like a black dragons cave). For example




                                                  • There are many different types of acids that literally melt things. You could use scientific acids (hydrochloric, sulfuric, etc), or something a little more fantastical like the acid from a black dragon's breath weapon.

                                                  • If the doors were constructed of something like salt of sugar, then almost any liquid would cause them to dissolve.

                                                  • The liquid could contain microorganisms (bacteria for example) that eat away at the material of the door. Similar to the extraterrestrial bacteria in The Andromeda Strain.

                                                  • In a sci-fi setting, the liquid could be nanobots that eat the door or convert it to a different shape.

                                                  • Thermite makes a very good door opening agent. The components of the door could cause an exothermic reaction, igniting the thermite, and melting the door.

                                                  • Salt or sugar, or some powdery concoction, could cause the door to melt when applied. In Supernatural, we know that salt affects the demonic and supernatural, so if the door is made with demon flesh, it would surely melt when salt or saltwater (aka holy water) is applied to it.







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                                                      The door, or at least the keyhole, is made with Litium-ion, or a similar substance that burns when exposed to air. Or maybe just ignited with the key.



                                                      They keys are specially shaped to fit the keyhole, puncture a barrier, and then the door bursts into flames. When the fire is done, the door is permanently opened.



                                                      The keys, being mass produced in the same factory or by the same keymaker, are all the same, and only have one purpose. Since the door immediately starts shooting flames out of the keyhole, the key is consumed in the fire.






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                                                      • sounds like an interesting variation for explosive variant with explosive (or in this case self-igniting chemical) being stored in the door itself
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                                                      The door, or at least the keyhole, is made with Litium-ion, or a similar substance that burns when exposed to air. Or maybe just ignited with the key.



                                                      They keys are specially shaped to fit the keyhole, puncture a barrier, and then the door bursts into flames. When the fire is done, the door is permanently opened.



                                                      The keys, being mass produced in the same factory or by the same keymaker, are all the same, and only have one purpose. Since the door immediately starts shooting flames out of the keyhole, the key is consumed in the fire.






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                                                      • sounds like an interesting variation for explosive variant with explosive (or in this case self-igniting chemical) being stored in the door itself
                                                        – MadCake
                                                        Nov 11 at 16:08













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                                                      up vote
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                                                      The door, or at least the keyhole, is made with Litium-ion, or a similar substance that burns when exposed to air. Or maybe just ignited with the key.



                                                      They keys are specially shaped to fit the keyhole, puncture a barrier, and then the door bursts into flames. When the fire is done, the door is permanently opened.



                                                      The keys, being mass produced in the same factory or by the same keymaker, are all the same, and only have one purpose. Since the door immediately starts shooting flames out of the keyhole, the key is consumed in the fire.






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                                                      The door, or at least the keyhole, is made with Litium-ion, or a similar substance that burns when exposed to air. Or maybe just ignited with the key.



                                                      They keys are specially shaped to fit the keyhole, puncture a barrier, and then the door bursts into flames. When the fire is done, the door is permanently opened.



                                                      The keys, being mass produced in the same factory or by the same keymaker, are all the same, and only have one purpose. Since the door immediately starts shooting flames out of the keyhole, the key is consumed in the fire.







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                                                      YetAnotherRandomUser

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                                                      • sounds like an interesting variation for explosive variant with explosive (or in this case self-igniting chemical) being stored in the door itself
                                                        – MadCake
                                                        Nov 11 at 16:08


















                                                      • sounds like an interesting variation for explosive variant with explosive (or in this case self-igniting chemical) being stored in the door itself
                                                        – MadCake
                                                        Nov 11 at 16:08
















                                                      sounds like an interesting variation for explosive variant with explosive (or in this case self-igniting chemical) being stored in the door itself
                                                      – MadCake
                                                      Nov 11 at 16:08




                                                      sounds like an interesting variation for explosive variant with explosive (or in this case self-igniting chemical) being stored in the door itself
                                                      – MadCake
                                                      Nov 11 at 16:08










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                                                      A key could be an intricate coin. To manufacture such a coin requires expensive metals and precise tools. The design should be complex enough that you couldn't simply use a mold or die to smelt a coin into the correct shape.



                                                      The door has a coin operated locking mechanism. Incorrect coins fall through and come out the bottom. Only coins with the perfect pattern of bumps and holes will fall into the correct place, completing the mechanism and opening the lock.



                                                      For added effect, make the door look like a giant gumball machine. 😁






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                                                      • Of course I only saw @vsz's answer after posting this. 😅
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                                                      A key could be an intricate coin. To manufacture such a coin requires expensive metals and precise tools. The design should be complex enough that you couldn't simply use a mold or die to smelt a coin into the correct shape.



                                                      The door has a coin operated locking mechanism. Incorrect coins fall through and come out the bottom. Only coins with the perfect pattern of bumps and holes will fall into the correct place, completing the mechanism and opening the lock.



                                                      For added effect, make the door look like a giant gumball machine. 😁






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                                                      • Of course I only saw @vsz's answer after posting this. 😅
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                                                      up vote
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                                                      A key could be an intricate coin. To manufacture such a coin requires expensive metals and precise tools. The design should be complex enough that you couldn't simply use a mold or die to smelt a coin into the correct shape.



                                                      The door has a coin operated locking mechanism. Incorrect coins fall through and come out the bottom. Only coins with the perfect pattern of bumps and holes will fall into the correct place, completing the mechanism and opening the lock.



                                                      For added effect, make the door look like a giant gumball machine. 😁






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                                                      A key could be an intricate coin. To manufacture such a coin requires expensive metals and precise tools. The design should be complex enough that you couldn't simply use a mold or die to smelt a coin into the correct shape.



                                                      The door has a coin operated locking mechanism. Incorrect coins fall through and come out the bottom. Only coins with the perfect pattern of bumps and holes will fall into the correct place, completing the mechanism and opening the lock.



                                                      For added effect, make the door look like a giant gumball machine. 😁







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                                                      Of course I only saw @vsz's answer after posting this. 😅
                                                      – Hand-E-Food
                                                      Nov 8 at 21:23




                                                      Of course I only saw @vsz's answer after posting this. 😅
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                                                      What you describe sounds like a kind of single-use skeleton key. This could be justified by having the "key" contain some active component that can open any lock, but expires when used.



                                                      In magical settings, this might be a Scroll/Wand of Unlocking; in scientific settings it could be some nanotech (or bio-engineered) "living lockpick" that permanently molds itself to the lock.






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                                                        What you describe sounds like a kind of single-use skeleton key. This could be justified by having the "key" contain some active component that can open any lock, but expires when used.



                                                        In magical settings, this might be a Scroll/Wand of Unlocking; in scientific settings it could be some nanotech (or bio-engineered) "living lockpick" that permanently molds itself to the lock.






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                                                          What you describe sounds like a kind of single-use skeleton key. This could be justified by having the "key" contain some active component that can open any lock, but expires when used.



                                                          In magical settings, this might be a Scroll/Wand of Unlocking; in scientific settings it could be some nanotech (or bio-engineered) "living lockpick" that permanently molds itself to the lock.






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                                                          What you describe sounds like a kind of single-use skeleton key. This could be justified by having the "key" contain some active component that can open any lock, but expires when used.



                                                          In magical settings, this might be a Scroll/Wand of Unlocking; in scientific settings it could be some nanotech (or bio-engineered) "living lockpick" that permanently molds itself to the lock.







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