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I have found a weird phenomenon on my MariaDB server (version 10.1.26-MariaDB-0+deb9u1)



I used to have a user XYZ long time ago, and this user probably got deleted sometime. However, I tried to login using this user and I got the following error message:




mysqli_real_connect(): (HY000/1275): Server is running in
--secure-auth mode, but 'XYZ'@'localhost' has a password in the old format; please change the password to the new format




Just to be sure, I tried to login using a non-existing user. For example, I try to login as NOTEXISTING, just to verify that the error message is indeed different.




mysqli_real_connect(): (HY000/1045): Access denied for user
'NOTEXISTING'@'localhost' (using password: YES)




Now, the question is, where is the old user information stored?



The user does not exist in the mysql database:



select * from mysql.user where user = 'XYZ';


=> empty result



grep -r XYZ /path_to_mysql_database_dir/mysql/


=> nothing



I also tried "FLUSH PRIVILEGES" to reload the user table.



Do you have an idea where the user information is stored?



Update



After trying various things and even testing on a completely fresh installed system, I come to the conclusion that it must be some kind of bug, so I opened a bug report: https://jira.mariadb.org/browse/MDEV-17789 . Any other ideas are welcome.










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    I have found a weird phenomenon on my MariaDB server (version 10.1.26-MariaDB-0+deb9u1)



    I used to have a user XYZ long time ago, and this user probably got deleted sometime. However, I tried to login using this user and I got the following error message:




    mysqli_real_connect(): (HY000/1275): Server is running in
    --secure-auth mode, but 'XYZ'@'localhost' has a password in the old format; please change the password to the new format




    Just to be sure, I tried to login using a non-existing user. For example, I try to login as NOTEXISTING, just to verify that the error message is indeed different.




    mysqli_real_connect(): (HY000/1045): Access denied for user
    'NOTEXISTING'@'localhost' (using password: YES)




    Now, the question is, where is the old user information stored?



    The user does not exist in the mysql database:



    select * from mysql.user where user = 'XYZ';


    => empty result



    grep -r XYZ /path_to_mysql_database_dir/mysql/


    => nothing



    I also tried "FLUSH PRIVILEGES" to reload the user table.



    Do you have an idea where the user information is stored?



    Update



    After trying various things and even testing on a completely fresh installed system, I come to the conclusion that it must be some kind of bug, so I opened a bug report: https://jira.mariadb.org/browse/MDEV-17789 . Any other ideas are welcome.










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      I have found a weird phenomenon on my MariaDB server (version 10.1.26-MariaDB-0+deb9u1)



      I used to have a user XYZ long time ago, and this user probably got deleted sometime. However, I tried to login using this user and I got the following error message:




      mysqli_real_connect(): (HY000/1275): Server is running in
      --secure-auth mode, but 'XYZ'@'localhost' has a password in the old format; please change the password to the new format




      Just to be sure, I tried to login using a non-existing user. For example, I try to login as NOTEXISTING, just to verify that the error message is indeed different.




      mysqli_real_connect(): (HY000/1045): Access denied for user
      'NOTEXISTING'@'localhost' (using password: YES)




      Now, the question is, where is the old user information stored?



      The user does not exist in the mysql database:



      select * from mysql.user where user = 'XYZ';


      => empty result



      grep -r XYZ /path_to_mysql_database_dir/mysql/


      => nothing



      I also tried "FLUSH PRIVILEGES" to reload the user table.



      Do you have an idea where the user information is stored?



      Update



      After trying various things and even testing on a completely fresh installed system, I come to the conclusion that it must be some kind of bug, so I opened a bug report: https://jira.mariadb.org/browse/MDEV-17789 . Any other ideas are welcome.










      share|improve this question
















      I have found a weird phenomenon on my MariaDB server (version 10.1.26-MariaDB-0+deb9u1)



      I used to have a user XYZ long time ago, and this user probably got deleted sometime. However, I tried to login using this user and I got the following error message:




      mysqli_real_connect(): (HY000/1275): Server is running in
      --secure-auth mode, but 'XYZ'@'localhost' has a password in the old format; please change the password to the new format




      Just to be sure, I tried to login using a non-existing user. For example, I try to login as NOTEXISTING, just to verify that the error message is indeed different.




      mysqli_real_connect(): (HY000/1045): Access denied for user
      'NOTEXISTING'@'localhost' (using password: YES)




      Now, the question is, where is the old user information stored?



      The user does not exist in the mysql database:



      select * from mysql.user where user = 'XYZ';


      => empty result



      grep -r XYZ /path_to_mysql_database_dir/mysql/


      => nothing



      I also tried "FLUSH PRIVILEGES" to reload the user table.



      Do you have an idea where the user information is stored?



      Update



      After trying various things and even testing on a completely fresh installed system, I come to the conclusion that it must be some kind of bug, so I opened a bug report: https://jira.mariadb.org/browse/MDEV-17789 . Any other ideas are welcome.







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          The plaintext password is not stored anywhere.



          SELECT user, host, password FROM user may provide something like



          | pm_demo          | localhost   | FFC3F585           |
          | dist | localhost | A8900DDB |
          | ronly | localhost | 5208517A |
          | spent | localhost | 26B08F08 |
          | test | 1.2.3.4 | A40C6DCC |


          That "password" is really an encrypted version of the plaintext password. It is the "old format", which is not very secure. New passwords look more like



          *A5280BD3F8C6BCC6537FCC3E113D794DD53534CC


          There are also other authentication mechanisms. (I don't know where you are in the evolution of authentication.)



          SELECT * FROM user WHERE user = 'xyz'G
          *************************** 1. row ***************************
          Host: localhost
          User: xyz
          Password: *6D800EA40C6DCC75BFF67DAB58D5D49FC5F8E568
          Select_priv: N
          Insert_priv: N
          Update_priv: N
          Delete_priv: N
          Create_priv: N
          Drop_priv: N
          Reload_priv: N
          Shutdown_priv: N
          Process_priv: N
          File_priv: N
          Grant_priv: N
          ...
          x509_subject:
          max_questions: 0
          max_updates: 0
          max_connections: 0
          max_user_connections: 0
          plugin: mysql_native_password
          authentication_string:
          password_expired: N
          1 row in set (0.00 sec)


          SHOW GRANTS FOR xyz@localhost;
          +------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
          | Grants for xyz@localhost |
          +------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
          | GRANT USAGE ON *.* TO 'xyz'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY PASSWORD '*6D800EA40C6DCC75BFF67DAB58D5D49FC5F8E568' |
          | GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON `xyz`.* TO 'xyz'@'localhost' |
          +------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
          2 rows in set (0.00 sec)





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          • Yes, I know all that. But in the user table, as I mentioned, there is no user with the name "XYZ", so "show grants" as well as "select ... from user" does not return anything. I have verified that the message comes from the plugin mysql_native_password (using "default-authentication-plugin"), which should query the user table.

            – Daniel Marschall
            Nov 22 '18 at 7:16








          • 1





            I come to the conclusion that it must be a bug in MariaDB, since the wrong error message disappears when I change anything at the user table (i.e. removing or adding any user, or changing specific user names). If I do so, I get the normal "access denied" message when I try to login as this non-existing user.

            – Daniel Marschall
            Nov 22 '18 at 7:17











          • @DanielMarschall - See FLUSH PRIVILEGES;

            – Rick James
            Nov 22 '18 at 19:19











          • I don't want to sound disrespectful, but I did all that, and it is also written in the question

            – Daniel Marschall
            Nov 23 '18 at 7:58



















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          A developer has confirmed that the (in my opinion wrong) error message is intentional behavior, based on a hash of the user table.



          https://jira.mariadb.org/plugins/servlet/mobile#issue/MDEV-17789






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            The plaintext password is not stored anywhere.



            SELECT user, host, password FROM user may provide something like



            | pm_demo          | localhost   | FFC3F585           |
            | dist | localhost | A8900DDB |
            | ronly | localhost | 5208517A |
            | spent | localhost | 26B08F08 |
            | test | 1.2.3.4 | A40C6DCC |


            That "password" is really an encrypted version of the plaintext password. It is the "old format", which is not very secure. New passwords look more like



            *A5280BD3F8C6BCC6537FCC3E113D794DD53534CC


            There are also other authentication mechanisms. (I don't know where you are in the evolution of authentication.)



            SELECT * FROM user WHERE user = 'xyz'G
            *************************** 1. row ***************************
            Host: localhost
            User: xyz
            Password: *6D800EA40C6DCC75BFF67DAB58D5D49FC5F8E568
            Select_priv: N
            Insert_priv: N
            Update_priv: N
            Delete_priv: N
            Create_priv: N
            Drop_priv: N
            Reload_priv: N
            Shutdown_priv: N
            Process_priv: N
            File_priv: N
            Grant_priv: N
            ...
            x509_subject:
            max_questions: 0
            max_updates: 0
            max_connections: 0
            max_user_connections: 0
            plugin: mysql_native_password
            authentication_string:
            password_expired: N
            1 row in set (0.00 sec)


            SHOW GRANTS FOR xyz@localhost;
            +------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
            | Grants for xyz@localhost |
            +------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
            | GRANT USAGE ON *.* TO 'xyz'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY PASSWORD '*6D800EA40C6DCC75BFF67DAB58D5D49FC5F8E568' |
            | GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON `xyz`.* TO 'xyz'@'localhost' |
            +------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
            2 rows in set (0.00 sec)





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            • Yes, I know all that. But in the user table, as I mentioned, there is no user with the name "XYZ", so "show grants" as well as "select ... from user" does not return anything. I have verified that the message comes from the plugin mysql_native_password (using "default-authentication-plugin"), which should query the user table.

              – Daniel Marschall
              Nov 22 '18 at 7:16








            • 1





              I come to the conclusion that it must be a bug in MariaDB, since the wrong error message disappears when I change anything at the user table (i.e. removing or adding any user, or changing specific user names). If I do so, I get the normal "access denied" message when I try to login as this non-existing user.

              – Daniel Marschall
              Nov 22 '18 at 7:17











            • @DanielMarschall - See FLUSH PRIVILEGES;

              – Rick James
              Nov 22 '18 at 19:19











            • I don't want to sound disrespectful, but I did all that, and it is also written in the question

              – Daniel Marschall
              Nov 23 '18 at 7:58
















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            The plaintext password is not stored anywhere.



            SELECT user, host, password FROM user may provide something like



            | pm_demo          | localhost   | FFC3F585           |
            | dist | localhost | A8900DDB |
            | ronly | localhost | 5208517A |
            | spent | localhost | 26B08F08 |
            | test | 1.2.3.4 | A40C6DCC |


            That "password" is really an encrypted version of the plaintext password. It is the "old format", which is not very secure. New passwords look more like



            *A5280BD3F8C6BCC6537FCC3E113D794DD53534CC


            There are also other authentication mechanisms. (I don't know where you are in the evolution of authentication.)



            SELECT * FROM user WHERE user = 'xyz'G
            *************************** 1. row ***************************
            Host: localhost
            User: xyz
            Password: *6D800EA40C6DCC75BFF67DAB58D5D49FC5F8E568
            Select_priv: N
            Insert_priv: N
            Update_priv: N
            Delete_priv: N
            Create_priv: N
            Drop_priv: N
            Reload_priv: N
            Shutdown_priv: N
            Process_priv: N
            File_priv: N
            Grant_priv: N
            ...
            x509_subject:
            max_questions: 0
            max_updates: 0
            max_connections: 0
            max_user_connections: 0
            plugin: mysql_native_password
            authentication_string:
            password_expired: N
            1 row in set (0.00 sec)


            SHOW GRANTS FOR xyz@localhost;
            +------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
            | Grants for xyz@localhost |
            +------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
            | GRANT USAGE ON *.* TO 'xyz'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY PASSWORD '*6D800EA40C6DCC75BFF67DAB58D5D49FC5F8E568' |
            | GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON `xyz`.* TO 'xyz'@'localhost' |
            +------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
            2 rows in set (0.00 sec)





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            • Yes, I know all that. But in the user table, as I mentioned, there is no user with the name "XYZ", so "show grants" as well as "select ... from user" does not return anything. I have verified that the message comes from the plugin mysql_native_password (using "default-authentication-plugin"), which should query the user table.

              – Daniel Marschall
              Nov 22 '18 at 7:16








            • 1





              I come to the conclusion that it must be a bug in MariaDB, since the wrong error message disappears when I change anything at the user table (i.e. removing or adding any user, or changing specific user names). If I do so, I get the normal "access denied" message when I try to login as this non-existing user.

              – Daniel Marschall
              Nov 22 '18 at 7:17











            • @DanielMarschall - See FLUSH PRIVILEGES;

              – Rick James
              Nov 22 '18 at 19:19











            • I don't want to sound disrespectful, but I did all that, and it is also written in the question

              – Daniel Marschall
              Nov 23 '18 at 7:58














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            The plaintext password is not stored anywhere.



            SELECT user, host, password FROM user may provide something like



            | pm_demo          | localhost   | FFC3F585           |
            | dist | localhost | A8900DDB |
            | ronly | localhost | 5208517A |
            | spent | localhost | 26B08F08 |
            | test | 1.2.3.4 | A40C6DCC |


            That "password" is really an encrypted version of the plaintext password. It is the "old format", which is not very secure. New passwords look more like



            *A5280BD3F8C6BCC6537FCC3E113D794DD53534CC


            There are also other authentication mechanisms. (I don't know where you are in the evolution of authentication.)



            SELECT * FROM user WHERE user = 'xyz'G
            *************************** 1. row ***************************
            Host: localhost
            User: xyz
            Password: *6D800EA40C6DCC75BFF67DAB58D5D49FC5F8E568
            Select_priv: N
            Insert_priv: N
            Update_priv: N
            Delete_priv: N
            Create_priv: N
            Drop_priv: N
            Reload_priv: N
            Shutdown_priv: N
            Process_priv: N
            File_priv: N
            Grant_priv: N
            ...
            x509_subject:
            max_questions: 0
            max_updates: 0
            max_connections: 0
            max_user_connections: 0
            plugin: mysql_native_password
            authentication_string:
            password_expired: N
            1 row in set (0.00 sec)


            SHOW GRANTS FOR xyz@localhost;
            +------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
            | Grants for xyz@localhost |
            +------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
            | GRANT USAGE ON *.* TO 'xyz'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY PASSWORD '*6D800EA40C6DCC75BFF67DAB58D5D49FC5F8E568' |
            | GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON `xyz`.* TO 'xyz'@'localhost' |
            +------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
            2 rows in set (0.00 sec)





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            The plaintext password is not stored anywhere.



            SELECT user, host, password FROM user may provide something like



            | pm_demo          | localhost   | FFC3F585           |
            | dist | localhost | A8900DDB |
            | ronly | localhost | 5208517A |
            | spent | localhost | 26B08F08 |
            | test | 1.2.3.4 | A40C6DCC |


            That "password" is really an encrypted version of the plaintext password. It is the "old format", which is not very secure. New passwords look more like



            *A5280BD3F8C6BCC6537FCC3E113D794DD53534CC


            There are also other authentication mechanisms. (I don't know where you are in the evolution of authentication.)



            SELECT * FROM user WHERE user = 'xyz'G
            *************************** 1. row ***************************
            Host: localhost
            User: xyz
            Password: *6D800EA40C6DCC75BFF67DAB58D5D49FC5F8E568
            Select_priv: N
            Insert_priv: N
            Update_priv: N
            Delete_priv: N
            Create_priv: N
            Drop_priv: N
            Reload_priv: N
            Shutdown_priv: N
            Process_priv: N
            File_priv: N
            Grant_priv: N
            ...
            x509_subject:
            max_questions: 0
            max_updates: 0
            max_connections: 0
            max_user_connections: 0
            plugin: mysql_native_password
            authentication_string:
            password_expired: N
            1 row in set (0.00 sec)


            SHOW GRANTS FOR xyz@localhost;
            +------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
            | Grants for xyz@localhost |
            +------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
            | GRANT USAGE ON *.* TO 'xyz'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY PASSWORD '*6D800EA40C6DCC75BFF67DAB58D5D49FC5F8E568' |
            | GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON `xyz`.* TO 'xyz'@'localhost' |
            +------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
            2 rows in set (0.00 sec)






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            • Yes, I know all that. But in the user table, as I mentioned, there is no user with the name "XYZ", so "show grants" as well as "select ... from user" does not return anything. I have verified that the message comes from the plugin mysql_native_password (using "default-authentication-plugin"), which should query the user table.

              – Daniel Marschall
              Nov 22 '18 at 7:16








            • 1





              I come to the conclusion that it must be a bug in MariaDB, since the wrong error message disappears when I change anything at the user table (i.e. removing or adding any user, or changing specific user names). If I do so, I get the normal "access denied" message when I try to login as this non-existing user.

              – Daniel Marschall
              Nov 22 '18 at 7:17











            • @DanielMarschall - See FLUSH PRIVILEGES;

              – Rick James
              Nov 22 '18 at 19:19











            • I don't want to sound disrespectful, but I did all that, and it is also written in the question

              – Daniel Marschall
              Nov 23 '18 at 7:58



















            • Yes, I know all that. But in the user table, as I mentioned, there is no user with the name "XYZ", so "show grants" as well as "select ... from user" does not return anything. I have verified that the message comes from the plugin mysql_native_password (using "default-authentication-plugin"), which should query the user table.

              – Daniel Marschall
              Nov 22 '18 at 7:16








            • 1





              I come to the conclusion that it must be a bug in MariaDB, since the wrong error message disappears when I change anything at the user table (i.e. removing or adding any user, or changing specific user names). If I do so, I get the normal "access denied" message when I try to login as this non-existing user.

              – Daniel Marschall
              Nov 22 '18 at 7:17











            • @DanielMarschall - See FLUSH PRIVILEGES;

              – Rick James
              Nov 22 '18 at 19:19











            • I don't want to sound disrespectful, but I did all that, and it is also written in the question

              – Daniel Marschall
              Nov 23 '18 at 7:58

















            Yes, I know all that. But in the user table, as I mentioned, there is no user with the name "XYZ", so "show grants" as well as "select ... from user" does not return anything. I have verified that the message comes from the plugin mysql_native_password (using "default-authentication-plugin"), which should query the user table.

            – Daniel Marschall
            Nov 22 '18 at 7:16







            Yes, I know all that. But in the user table, as I mentioned, there is no user with the name "XYZ", so "show grants" as well as "select ... from user" does not return anything. I have verified that the message comes from the plugin mysql_native_password (using "default-authentication-plugin"), which should query the user table.

            – Daniel Marschall
            Nov 22 '18 at 7:16






            1




            1





            I come to the conclusion that it must be a bug in MariaDB, since the wrong error message disappears when I change anything at the user table (i.e. removing or adding any user, or changing specific user names). If I do so, I get the normal "access denied" message when I try to login as this non-existing user.

            – Daniel Marschall
            Nov 22 '18 at 7:17





            I come to the conclusion that it must be a bug in MariaDB, since the wrong error message disappears when I change anything at the user table (i.e. removing or adding any user, or changing specific user names). If I do so, I get the normal "access denied" message when I try to login as this non-existing user.

            – Daniel Marschall
            Nov 22 '18 at 7:17













            @DanielMarschall - See FLUSH PRIVILEGES;

            – Rick James
            Nov 22 '18 at 19:19





            @DanielMarschall - See FLUSH PRIVILEGES;

            – Rick James
            Nov 22 '18 at 19:19













            I don't want to sound disrespectful, but I did all that, and it is also written in the question

            – Daniel Marschall
            Nov 23 '18 at 7:58





            I don't want to sound disrespectful, but I did all that, and it is also written in the question

            – Daniel Marschall
            Nov 23 '18 at 7:58













            0














            A developer has confirmed that the (in my opinion wrong) error message is intentional behavior, based on a hash of the user table.



            https://jira.mariadb.org/plugins/servlet/mobile#issue/MDEV-17789






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              A developer has confirmed that the (in my opinion wrong) error message is intentional behavior, based on a hash of the user table.



              https://jira.mariadb.org/plugins/servlet/mobile#issue/MDEV-17789






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                A developer has confirmed that the (in my opinion wrong) error message is intentional behavior, based on a hash of the user table.



                https://jira.mariadb.org/plugins/servlet/mobile#issue/MDEV-17789






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                A developer has confirmed that the (in my opinion wrong) error message is intentional behavior, based on a hash of the user table.



                https://jira.mariadb.org/plugins/servlet/mobile#issue/MDEV-17789







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